WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.520 align:middle line:84% So I first met Rodrigo Restrepo Montoya at a coming out party. 00:00:08.520 --> 00:00:11.880 align:middle line:84% It was a coming out party for a desert tortoise-- 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:13.200 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:16.040 align:middle line:84% --a desert tortoise named Juliettete. 00:00:16.040 --> 00:00:20.240 align:middle line:84% And Juliettete was coming out of hibernation. 00:00:20.240 --> 00:00:23.520 align:middle line:84% I had been to a party for Juliettete's coming out 00:00:23.520 --> 00:00:29.280 align:middle line:84% the year before, and maybe even the year before that, too. 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.880 align:middle line:84% The thing is that Juliettete doesn't always actually come out 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:36.000 align:middle line:84% from under her rock at these parties. 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:39.200 align:middle line:90% They're anticipatory parties. 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:41.960 align:middle line:84% In fact, I don't think she's ever actually come out 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:43.880 align:middle line:90% in one of these parties. 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:48.240 align:middle line:84% Usually she emerges a few weeks later, once everyone has gone 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:52.520 align:middle line:84% and the warmth of spring has grown a little bit stronger. 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:54.420 align:middle line:84% Someone who did come out for this party, 00:00:54.420 --> 00:00:56.840 align:middle line:90% however, was Rodrigo. 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.480 align:middle line:84% I did not know then that Rodrigo was 00:00:59.480 --> 00:01:03.200 align:middle line:84% the author of The Holy Days of Gregorio Pasos. 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.480 align:middle line:84% I didn't know that his work had appeared 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.260 align:middle line:84% in the Kenyon Review, The Offing, 00:01:08.260 --> 00:01:13.980 align:middle line:84% or in Diagram. shout out to Diagram U of A. Or 00:01:13.980 --> 00:01:17.940 align:middle line:84% that he would later be named a finalist for the 2025 DAG Prize 00:01:17.940 --> 00:01:20.220 align:middle line:90% for Literature. 00:01:20.220 --> 00:01:22.420 align:middle line:84% I also didn't know that his partner 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:25.460 align:middle line:90% Morgan was a novelist, too. 00:01:25.460 --> 00:01:28.020 align:middle line:84% Working on a book with the coolest title 00:01:28.020 --> 00:01:30.300 align:middle line:84% you've ever heard, The Oldest Bitch 00:01:30.300 --> 00:01:34.460 align:middle line:90% Alive, which is about a dog. 00:01:34.460 --> 00:01:35.520 align:middle line:90% Look for it next month. 00:01:35.520 --> 00:01:38.900 align:middle line:90% It comes out next month. 00:01:38.900 --> 00:01:42.380 align:middle line:84% But anyhow, to me, they're in Juliette's yard. 00:01:42.380 --> 00:01:46.460 align:middle line:84% Rodrigo and Morgan were just a couple of cool guys. 00:01:46.460 --> 00:01:48.780 align:middle line:90% Friends of a friend. 00:01:48.780 --> 00:01:50.540 align:middle line:84% Sometimes when I meet cool people 00:01:50.540 --> 00:01:53.900 align:middle line:84% who also happen to be writers, I almost 00:01:53.900 --> 00:01:55.860 align:middle line:84% don't want to know what they write, 00:01:55.860 --> 00:01:59.260 align:middle line:84% because I just want to be friends. 00:01:59.260 --> 00:02:01.900 align:middle line:84% The way that we used to be friends with people before it 00:02:01.900 --> 00:02:05.580 align:middle line:84% mattered what we did or what we wrote about. 00:02:05.580 --> 00:02:08.300 align:middle line:84% And for a while things went according to plan, 00:02:08.300 --> 00:02:12.240 align:middle line:84% and I remained oblivious to Rodrigo's writing. 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.500 align:middle line:84% Meeting up with him to watch Champions League Soccer matches, 00:02:15.500 --> 00:02:18.800 align:middle line:84% or inviting him over for decidedly un-writerly hangout 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.760 align:middle line:84% sessions in which we mostly played video games. 00:02:22.760 --> 00:02:26.120 align:middle line:84% I remember one night playing Mario Party. 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.340 align:middle line:84% Every time it was Rodrigo's turn, 00:02:28.340 --> 00:02:30.960 align:middle line:84% he would sit straight up and make 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.480 align:middle line:84% everybody stop talking to him, saying 00:02:33.480 --> 00:02:36.560 align:middle line:90% that he needed to lock in. 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.200 align:middle line:84% As he ignored everyone else in the room 00:02:38.200 --> 00:02:42.140 align:middle line:84% to focus on rolling his dice, or chopping an onion, 00:02:42.140 --> 00:02:44.240 align:middle line:84% or swinging on a vine, or whatever else 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.840 align:middle line:84% you end up doing in a Mario Party. 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.480 align:middle line:84% And one thing's for sure, Rodrigo is good at locking in, 00:02:51.480 --> 00:02:55.120 align:middle line:84% because he definitely kicked everyone's ass that night. 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:57.360 align:middle line:84% And y'all should watch out because I see him locking 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:00.240 align:middle line:90% in the front row right now. 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.760 align:middle line:84% Anyhow, a months after this, I finally bought Rodrigo's book. 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:07.940 align:middle line:84% And I ended up reading it in a pretty locked-in environment 00:03:07.940 --> 00:03:10.800 align:middle line:84% as it happens, during a self-made writing retreat 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.440 align:middle line:84% at a Benedictine monastery nestled 00:03:13.440 --> 00:03:17.460 align:middle line:84% at the end of a canyon deep in New Mexico. 00:03:17.460 --> 00:03:22.140 align:middle line:84% The Holy Days of Gregorio Pasos opens in Tucson. 00:03:22.140 --> 00:03:25.940 align:middle line:84% A 21-year-old goalkeeper is reflecting on his life after 00:03:25.940 --> 00:03:27.820 align:middle line:90% a soccer injury. 00:03:27.820 --> 00:03:30.860 align:middle line:84% His thoughts turned to the years he spent adrift 00:03:30.860 --> 00:03:34.860 align:middle line:84% as an 18-year-old in Washington, DC with the first Trump 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:37.460 align:middle line:84% presidency roiling in the background, 00:03:37.460 --> 00:03:41.340 align:middle line:84% as he struggles to place himself within an immigrant identity 00:03:41.340 --> 00:03:45.260 align:middle line:84% in a time of xenophobic upheaval. 00:03:45.260 --> 00:03:47.700 align:middle line:90% The book hit close to home. 00:03:47.700 --> 00:03:50.020 align:middle line:84% I once lived in Washington, DC when 00:03:50.020 --> 00:03:53.320 align:middle line:84% I was 18, in college during the Bush years, 00:03:53.320 --> 00:03:57.100 align:middle line:84% as the Iraq War rattled on, and the power of border hawks 00:03:57.100 --> 00:04:00.500 align:middle line:90% grew in the halls of Congress. 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:02.940 align:middle line:84% I probably felt more adrift in those years 00:04:02.940 --> 00:04:05.620 align:middle line:90% than I've ever felt in my life. 00:04:05.620 --> 00:04:08.180 align:middle line:84% And as I read, I saw myself clearly 00:04:08.180 --> 00:04:10.740 align:middle line:84% in the book's narrator, Gregorio, 00:04:10.740 --> 00:04:13.420 align:middle line:84% who seemed like a past self I had almost 00:04:13.420 --> 00:04:17.620 align:middle line:84% forgotten about entirely, until cracking the spine of this book 00:04:17.620 --> 00:04:20.040 align:middle line:84% under the red walls of that canyon, 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.220 align:middle line:84% with the sound of beavertails slapping 00:04:22.220 --> 00:04:27.040 align:middle line:84% against the waters of the Chama River in the distance. 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:28.840 align:middle line:84% It's no surprise that I had largely 00:04:28.840 --> 00:04:32.680 align:middle line:84% forgot about that time in my young adult life, a time when 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.640 align:middle line:84% our heads are filled with questions 00:04:34.640 --> 00:04:37.440 align:middle line:90% about our place in the world. 00:04:37.440 --> 00:04:39.640 align:middle line:84% Here on the grounds of a university, 00:04:39.640 --> 00:04:43.800 align:middle line:84% this time is a perpetual present. 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.680 align:middle line:84% As Gregorio prepares to say goodbye to his father 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.360 align:middle line:84% before a visit to Colombia, he worries 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.240 align:middle line:84% about leaving his old man alone with all of our ghosts. 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:57.720 align:middle line:84% He means the ghosts of an immigrant family. 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:01.660 align:middle line:84% But the ghosts were here first, Gregorio's father tells him, 00:05:01.660 --> 00:05:03.600 align:middle line:84% as if to let this young person know 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.760 align:middle line:84% that there is no life without the churning questions of who 00:05:06.760 --> 00:05:10.680 align:middle line:84% we are and where we come from looming overhead. 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.880 align:middle line:84% All there is to do, his father seems to imply, 00:05:13.880 --> 00:05:19.160 align:middle line:84% is to decide when and how to come out from underneath them. 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.100 align:middle line:84% Please welcome Rodrigo Restrepo Montoya. 00:05:21.100 --> 00:05:24.450 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:05:24.450 --> 00:05:29.000 align:middle line:90%