WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.480 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:05.760 align:middle line:84% So before I start my intro, my friend and fellow poet Claire 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:08.740 align:middle line:84% Hong, who introduced Anselm yesterday at his lecture, 00:00:08.740 --> 00:00:09.880 align:middle line:90% is having her first child. 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:11.440 align:middle line:84% And my wife and I are also having 00:00:11.440 --> 00:00:13.020 align:middle line:90% our first child due in March. 00:00:13.020 --> 00:00:17.320 align:middle line:84% So the poets are having babies there. 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:21.080 align:middle line:84% But how many poets can you name that have appeared in a Rolling 00:00:21.080 --> 00:00:23.440 align:middle line:90% Stones music video? 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.460 align:middle line:84% I only know of one poet who can claim this. 00:00:25.460 --> 00:00:27.120 align:middle line:90% And it's Anselm Berrigan. 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:31.380 align:middle line:84% Anselm is cool as all hell, and so is his poetry. 00:00:31.380 --> 00:00:32.700 align:middle line:90% And allow me to tell you why. 00:00:32.700 --> 00:00:35.200 align:middle line:84% I've known Anselm since 2017, when I interviewed him 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:37.320 align:middle line:90% for Sonora Review. 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.180 align:middle line:84% In that interview, knowing that he's a basketball fan, 00:00:40.180 --> 00:00:42.680 align:middle line:84% I sneakily asked him if he'd be willing to join a fantasy 00:00:42.680 --> 00:00:45.040 align:middle line:84% basketball league that I had started. 00:00:45.040 --> 00:00:46.840 align:middle line:84% If you're unfamiliar, fantasy basketball 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:49.760 align:middle line:84% is like Dungeons and Dragons, but with real NBA players. 00:00:49.760 --> 00:00:51.880 align:middle line:90% And their stats tell the story. 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:54.660 align:middle line:84% To my surprise, Anselm joined my fantasy basketball league, 00:00:54.660 --> 00:00:56.493 align:middle line:84% and we've been drafting teams, and competing 00:00:56.493 --> 00:01:00.080 align:middle line:84% against each other, and having a blast for the past eight years. 00:01:00.080 --> 00:01:01.180 align:middle line:90% I look up to Anselm. 00:01:01.180 --> 00:01:04.239 align:middle line:84% I look up to him as an artist, but also 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.660 align:middle line:84% as a fellow son of an artist, where it wasn't just something 00:01:08.660 --> 00:01:10.480 align:middle line:84% that our parents did in their spare time, 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.900 align:middle line:84% or in their retirement, or a serious hobby. 00:01:12.900 --> 00:01:14.140 align:middle line:90% It was their living. 00:01:14.140 --> 00:01:16.540 align:middle line:84% My father was a Southwest landscape artist and portrait 00:01:16.540 --> 00:01:19.340 align:middle line:84% painter, and he was a middle school art teacher for 30 years. 00:01:19.340 --> 00:01:21.260 align:middle line:84% So it's fascinating for me to hear 00:01:21.260 --> 00:01:25.940 align:middle line:84% how Anselm wrestles with and writes about his poet parents. 00:01:25.940 --> 00:01:28.940 align:middle line:84% In Anselm's talk yesterday, he said 00:01:28.940 --> 00:01:32.420 align:middle line:84% that when he started writing, he wasn't interested in characters 00:01:32.420 --> 00:01:34.020 align:middle line:90% or narrative. 00:01:34.020 --> 00:01:35.860 align:middle line:84% And I generally agree, but I think 00:01:35.860 --> 00:01:40.020 align:middle line:84% it's because, for me, the poems can't escape these things. 00:01:40.020 --> 00:01:42.100 align:middle line:84% I find narratives and characters and stories 00:01:42.100 --> 00:01:44.620 align:middle line:90% all the time in Anselm's poetry. 00:01:44.620 --> 00:01:47.340 align:middle line:84% But I'm making those connections in my own imagination, 00:01:47.340 --> 00:01:48.820 align:middle line:84% and that's even more exciting when 00:01:48.820 --> 00:01:53.700 align:middle line:84% I catch a reference to Wade Boggs, Marshawn Lynch or Rajon 00:01:53.700 --> 00:01:56.500 align:middle line:90% Rondo. 00:01:56.500 --> 00:01:57.880 align:middle line:90% Oh yeah, it's double-sided. 00:01:57.880 --> 00:02:00.340 align:middle line:84% There we go-- skipped over there. 00:02:00.340 --> 00:02:06.180 align:middle line:84% So my favorite Rolling Stones song is "Waiting on a Friend." 00:02:06.180 --> 00:02:09.199 align:middle line:84% It's a sweet, slow burner of a '70s Stones song. 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:12.860 align:middle line:84% And in the tradition of some of Bob Dylan's anti-love songs 00:02:12.860 --> 00:02:16.500 align:middle line:84% or songs that are about chasing away or ignoring romantic love, 00:02:16.500 --> 00:02:18.700 align:middle line:84% "Waiting on a Friend" has a cool, laid back, 00:02:18.700 --> 00:02:20.300 align:middle line:90% playful acceptance to it. 00:02:20.300 --> 00:02:21.150 align:middle line:90% I loved that song. 00:02:21.150 --> 00:02:22.900 align:middle line:84% And I think the video is really cool, too. 00:02:22.900 --> 00:02:24.380 align:middle line:84% And I used to watch it all the time. 00:02:24.380 --> 00:02:26.713 align:middle line:84% I used to play it on repeat in the early days of YouTube 00:02:26.713 --> 00:02:28.560 align:middle line:90% in 2008/2009. 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.200 align:middle line:84% But it wasn't until a few years ago 00:02:30.200 --> 00:02:32.760 align:middle line:84% that I found out that Anselm comes out 00:02:32.760 --> 00:02:36.480 align:middle line:84% in the video for five seconds, and pretty prominently featured 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:38.480 align:middle line:84% in those five seconds, with Anselm 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:41.080 align:middle line:84% in the foreground of a scene with Keith Richards strutting 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.160 align:middle line:84% down a New York Street in the background. 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:46.648 align:middle line:84% Teenage Anselm is there, just hanging out, 00:02:46.648 --> 00:02:48.940 align:middle line:84% a kid playing on the street or something, I'm not sure. 00:02:48.940 --> 00:02:51.000 align:middle line:90% But he's very much there. 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:55.720 align:middle line:84% So this is from the Wikipedia entry for the video of "Waiting 00:02:55.720 --> 00:02:59.520 align:middle line:84% on a Friend," which doesn't mention Anselm is in the video. 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:02.660 align:middle line:84% So you're getting something that Wikipedia won't give you here. 00:03:02.660 --> 00:03:05.520 align:middle line:84% But this is straight from Wikipedia. 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.020 align:middle line:84% The video for the Rolling Stones song "Waiting on a Friend," 00:03:08.020 --> 00:03:11.400 align:middle line:84% shot on July 2, 1981, was directed by Michael 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.640 align:middle line:84% Lindsay-Hogg, who also directed their 1968 special The Rolling 00:03:14.640 --> 00:03:16.260 align:middle line:90% Stones Rock and Roll Circus. 00:03:16.260 --> 00:03:18.760 align:middle line:90% It became very popular on MTV. 00:03:18.760 --> 00:03:20.480 align:middle line:84% Matching the song's lyrics, Jagger 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:23.350 align:middle line:84% is seen waiting for Keith Richards in the doorway 00:03:23.350 --> 00:03:24.710 align:middle line:90% of an apartment block. 00:03:24.710 --> 00:03:29.612 align:middle line:84% The building, at 9698 St. Mark's Place in Manhattan, 00:03:29.612 --> 00:03:31.070 align:middle line:84% is notable for having also appeared 00:03:31.070 --> 00:03:34.692 align:middle line:84% on the cover of Led Zeppelin's 1975 album Physical Graffiti. 00:03:34.692 --> 00:03:36.150 align:middle line:84% The two then walked down the street 00:03:36.150 --> 00:03:38.450 align:middle line:84% and enter the St. Mark's Bar and Grill, 00:03:38.450 --> 00:03:40.875 align:middle line:84% where the other three band members are already drinking. 00:03:40.875 --> 00:03:42.250 align:middle line:84% Ronnie Wood appears in the video, 00:03:42.250 --> 00:03:45.030 align:middle line:84% although he was not a musician on the original recording. 00:03:45.030 --> 00:03:46.610 align:middle line:84% Jagger sings the song to Richards. 00:03:46.610 --> 00:03:49.027 align:middle line:84% And the video concludes with the band setting up for a gig 00:03:49.027 --> 00:03:53.310 align:middle line:84% at the back of the bar, largely ignored by the other patrons. 00:03:53.310 --> 00:03:55.230 align:middle line:84% In Anselm's lecture talk yesterday, he 00:03:55.230 --> 00:03:58.870 align:middle line:84% shared all these cool stories about poets who I admire. 00:03:58.870 --> 00:04:02.150 align:middle line:84% And now poets like Claire Hong and I 00:04:02.150 --> 00:04:04.950 align:middle line:84% get to share stories about Anselm, a poet we look up to 00:04:04.950 --> 00:04:07.510 align:middle line:84% and admire for his infectious energy and playfulness 00:04:07.510 --> 00:04:08.790 align:middle line:90% in his work. 00:04:08.790 --> 00:04:11.550 align:middle line:90% Anselm's poetry collects things. 00:04:11.550 --> 00:04:14.230 align:middle line:90% Anselm's poetry is a hoarder. 00:04:14.230 --> 00:04:16.327 align:middle line:84% And this inspired a lot of my book-- 00:04:16.327 --> 00:04:17.910 align:middle line:84% The Border Simulator, where I'm trying 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:21.810 align:middle line:84% to capture all the Spanglish and Spanish and English sayings, 00:04:21.810 --> 00:04:24.270 align:middle line:84% overheard stuff you can only hear at the border. 00:04:24.270 --> 00:04:26.110 align:middle line:84% Sometimes reading Anselm's poetry 00:04:26.110 --> 00:04:28.890 align:middle line:84% feels like I'm overhearing a conversation from people 00:04:28.890 --> 00:04:32.350 align:middle line:90% who I want to hang out with. 00:04:32.350 --> 00:04:34.930 align:middle line:84% So it's pretty cool we get to hang out with Anselm for 45 00:04:34.930 --> 00:04:37.090 align:middle line:90% minutes here and hear his work. 00:04:37.090 --> 00:04:40.290 align:middle line:84% When I read Anselm's poetry, I'm cracking up. 00:04:40.290 --> 00:04:42.510 align:middle line:90% I'm laughing. 00:04:42.510 --> 00:04:45.230 align:middle line:84% I'm recognizing references to baseball and basketball moments, 00:04:45.230 --> 00:04:48.810 align:middle line:84% garage rock bands from the '90s, remixed aphorisms and sayings. 00:04:48.810 --> 00:04:50.810 align:middle line:90% I'm having a blast. 00:04:50.810 --> 00:04:52.670 align:middle line:84% The first line in Anselm Berrigan's book, 00:04:52.670 --> 00:04:55.850 align:middle line:84% Primitive State, goes against the rules of art museums 00:04:55.850 --> 00:04:59.370 align:middle line:90% and states, "touch the art." 00:04:59.370 --> 00:05:03.090 align:middle line:84% For me, Anselm's poetry loudly hums. 00:05:03.090 --> 00:05:04.950 align:middle line:84% Think of the crash test dummies song. 00:05:04.950 --> 00:05:10.730 align:middle line:84% [HUMMING] That's actually the name of the song. 00:05:10.730 --> 00:05:13.530 align:middle line:90% So Anselm's poetry loudly hums. 00:05:13.530 --> 00:05:16.410 align:middle line:84% And hums are saying, we want to have fun. 00:05:16.410 --> 00:05:17.870 align:middle line:90% We want to rock and roll. 00:05:17.870 --> 00:05:19.470 align:middle line:90% We want to swing for the fences. 00:05:19.470 --> 00:05:22.090 align:middle line:90% We want to wait on a friend. 00:05:22.090 --> 00:05:25.310 align:middle line:84% And right now, I'm just waiting on a friend. 00:05:25.310 --> 00:05:29.630 align:middle line:84% And I'm so chuffed, so happy to call you, Anselm, a friend. 00:05:29.630 --> 00:05:31.770 align:middle line:84% Please help me welcome Anselm Berrigan. 00:05:31.770 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