WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.680 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:04.680 --> 00:00:06.060 align:middle line:90% Ooh, look at you. 00:00:06.060 --> 00:00:07.760 align:middle line:84% I hadn't looked back for a while. 00:00:07.760 --> 00:00:09.650 align:middle line:90% This place has filled up nicely. 00:00:09.650 --> 00:00:12.680 align:middle line:90% 00:00:12.680 --> 00:00:15.320 align:middle line:90% Mathias Svalina. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:21.240 align:middle line:84% I had brunch with Mathias about a week ago, maybe a little less. 00:00:21.240 --> 00:00:27.120 align:middle line:84% He told me the best introduction I could do would be a roast. 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:28.350 align:middle line:90% So here goes. 00:00:28.350 --> 00:00:31.920 align:middle line:90% 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:36.320 align:middle line:84% Mathias Svalina is a craven capitalist who 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:39.090 align:middle line:90% sells you dreams to make money. 00:00:39.090 --> 00:00:45.400 align:middle line:84% [LAUGHTER] Do you know how lucrative a dream delivery 00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:46.760 align:middle line:90% service is? 00:00:46.760 --> 00:00:49.970 align:middle line:84% Well, you're going to find out when you see this guy. 00:00:49.970 --> 00:00:54.680 align:middle line:90% 00:00:54.680 --> 00:00:58.280 align:middle line:84% You know what Mathias said to me at that brunch? 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:02.050 align:middle line:84% He said, "Who gives a shit about poetry books?" 00:01:02.050 --> 00:01:08.610 align:middle line:84% [LAUGHTER] And this guy has gone on to publish eight of them. 00:01:08.610 --> 00:01:10.600 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:13.330 align:middle line:84% The most recent one of which is called 00:01:13.330 --> 00:01:18.810 align:middle line:84% Thank You Terror, which is a beautiful and tender book 00:01:18.810 --> 00:01:21.210 align:middle line:84% about a beautiful and tender world. 00:01:21.210 --> 00:01:23.130 align:middle line:90% God damn it, Mathias. 00:01:23.130 --> 00:01:27.490 align:middle line:84% It's impossible to roast you because you're so singularly 00:01:27.490 --> 00:01:31.490 align:middle line:84% unique, and I admire you so much. 00:01:31.490 --> 00:01:35.810 align:middle line:84% Because you've not only created a new genre, "the dream," 00:01:35.810 --> 00:01:39.930 align:middle line:84% but a new form of publication and distribution, 00:01:39.930 --> 00:01:43.930 align:middle line:84% and in doing so, found and forged new ways of creating 00:01:43.930 --> 00:01:46.130 align:middle line:90% community. 00:01:46.130 --> 00:01:50.570 align:middle line:84% For more than a decade, Mathias has operated a dream delivery 00:01:50.570 --> 00:01:53.310 align:middle line:84% service, something that he calls, quote, 00:01:53.310 --> 00:01:58.290 align:middle line:84% "a nomadic literary arts project of permeable dreaming." 00:01:58.290 --> 00:02:01.510 align:middle line:84% It began in Denver, which was his hometown at the time, 00:02:01.510 --> 00:02:05.090 align:middle line:84% and has taken him two cities across the US. 00:02:05.090 --> 00:02:09.009 align:middle line:84% And as Tyler alluded to for a month at a time, 00:02:09.009 --> 00:02:13.370 align:middle line:84% he bicycles through the near dawn hours to hand deliver 00:02:13.370 --> 00:02:18.810 align:middle line:84% surrealist prose poem dreams in pink envelopes to subscribers 00:02:18.810 --> 00:02:23.030 align:middle line:84% within a 4-mile radius of his home base. 00:02:23.030 --> 00:02:26.790 align:middle line:84% He once told a reporter at the Denver Post, quote, 00:02:26.790 --> 00:02:29.230 align:middle line:84% "It feels like what I'm born to do, 00:02:29.230 --> 00:02:32.990 align:middle line:84% write these weird little things." 00:02:32.990 --> 00:02:35.430 align:middle line:84% The dream delivery empire, and here's 00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:38.310 align:middle line:84% where I get back to the roast, because clearly he's 00:02:38.310 --> 00:02:43.350 align:middle line:84% a craven capitalist and now a colonizer of all the dream 00:02:43.350 --> 00:02:48.110 align:middle line:84% territories, has taken him to at least 11 cities 00:02:48.110 --> 00:02:53.070 align:middle line:84% and now includes dream walking and audio tours, as well 00:02:53.070 --> 00:02:57.430 align:middle line:84% as dream prompts, even dream beasts. 00:02:57.430 --> 00:02:58.410 align:middle line:90% How could you? 00:02:58.410 --> 00:03:00.390 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:03:00.390 --> 00:03:02.870 align:middle line:84% He's been involved in collaborations with the Denver 00:03:02.870 --> 00:03:05.350 align:middle line:84% Museum of Contemporary Art, the Poetry 00:03:05.350 --> 00:03:07.770 align:middle line:84% Foundation, the U of A Poetry Center, 00:03:07.770 --> 00:03:11.870 align:middle line:84% Austin Modern, Tucson MOCA, and the Just Buffalo Literary 00:03:11.870 --> 00:03:13.470 align:middle line:90% Center. 00:03:13.470 --> 00:03:16.150 align:middle line:84% He has said, quote, "A lot of what 00:03:16.150 --> 00:03:19.830 align:middle line:84% I do every day is collect as much as I can of the world 00:03:19.830 --> 00:03:22.710 align:middle line:84% and churn it back out in these dreams, which 00:03:22.710 --> 00:03:25.190 align:middle line:90% is more than making a poem. 00:03:25.190 --> 00:03:29.870 align:middle line:84% It's a practice and something that's a little holy." 00:03:29.870 --> 00:03:33.520 align:middle line:84% In his new book he writes, quote, 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.520 align:middle line:84% "I'm picking lives from the grass 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.280 align:middle line:84% and pasting them together into a prayer. 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:44.760 align:middle line:84% At a time when our interdependence has never 00:03:44.760 --> 00:03:49.200 align:middle line:84% been more apparent, when the capitalist drive for competition 00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:52.700 align:middle line:84% and accumulation has proven one of the greatest, 00:03:52.700 --> 00:03:55.560 align:middle line:84% if not the greatest, threats to humanity, 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:59.480 align:middle line:90% here's one small alternative. 00:03:59.480 --> 00:04:02.720 align:middle line:84% Instead of looking for a publisher or an agent, 00:04:02.720 --> 00:04:05.960 align:middle line:84% maybe you write dreams, ride your bike, 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:11.720 align:middle line:84% create some before unimagined possibility for a stranger who 00:04:11.720 --> 00:04:16.079 align:middle line:84% will open a pink envelope and discover something new about 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:20.079 align:middle line:84% the place they live or themselves." 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.120 align:middle line:84% Matthias Svalina is an anticapitalist 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:27.080 align:middle line:84% who creates dreams and doesn't care about money. 00:04:27.080 --> 00:04:31.400 align:middle line:84% He's a dream delivery person, a dream carrier, 00:04:31.400 --> 00:04:35.800 align:middle line:84% and the last words in his latest book are, thank you, 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.000 align:middle line:90% you are loved. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.620 align:middle line:84% Please help me to welcome Matthias Svalina. 00:04:41.620 --> 00:04:44.500 align:middle line:90% [CHEERS, APPLAUSE] 00:04:44.500 --> 00:04:45.000 align:middle line:90%