WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.848 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:03.848 --> 00:00:08.660 align:middle line:90% 00:00:08.660 --> 00:00:10.370 align:middle line:84% It's taken a lot of effort for me 00:00:10.370 --> 00:00:15.350 align:middle line:84% just not to drink this white wine that's sitting up here. 00:00:15.350 --> 00:00:17.750 align:middle line:84% And I would like to say up front that this is one of-- 00:00:17.750 --> 00:00:20.960 align:middle line:84% I have an odd collection, which is something 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:22.940 align:middle line:84% that probably no one else has, which 00:00:22.940 --> 00:00:27.050 align:middle line:84% is a collection of Spice Girls 12 inches-- 00:00:27.050 --> 00:00:32.570 align:middle line:84% 12 inch singles that I only ask geniuses to sign. 00:00:32.570 --> 00:00:35.930 align:middle line:84% And I would like you to sign this for me 00:00:35.930 --> 00:00:39.110 align:middle line:84% tonight just to give you a sense of, like, the depth 00:00:39.110 --> 00:00:42.770 align:middle line:90% of this evening for me. 00:00:42.770 --> 00:00:46.050 align:middle line:84% The flip side is Eileen Myles, if that matters. 00:00:46.050 --> 00:00:47.270 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:00:47.270 --> 00:00:50.900 align:middle line:84% So it has taken me at least a decade 00:00:50.900 --> 00:00:55.880 align:middle line:84% to understand what Mary Ruefle was trying to say to me in 2001, 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.340 align:middle line:84% which makes introducing her on an occasion 00:00:58.340 --> 00:01:01.620 align:middle line:84% like this an exercise in speculative fiction 00:01:01.620 --> 00:01:03.950 align:middle line:84% or maybe what I mean is that I should prepare 00:01:03.950 --> 00:01:05.540 align:middle line:90% to understand the way in-- 00:01:05.540 --> 00:01:08.230 align:middle line:84% --which I was wrong in this introduction 00:01:08.230 --> 00:01:10.560 align:middle line:84% at approximately the point I retire 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.110 align:middle line:90% from the University of Arizona. 00:01:13.110 --> 00:01:15.450 align:middle line:84% Some of the administration may hope 00:01:15.450 --> 00:01:18.150 align:middle line:84% that the day of my retirement is sooner than later-- 00:01:18.150 --> 00:01:19.330 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:01:19.330 --> 00:01:21.270 align:middle line:84% --so I can ceasefire my punctuation 00:01:21.270 --> 00:01:23.760 align:middle line:84% of their weird shenanigans with dumb jokes 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:27.840 align:middle line:84% about anthropomorphic paperclips that have evidently really 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:29.130 align:middle line:90% ticked them off. 00:01:29.130 --> 00:01:34.560 align:middle line:84% But to speak of the thin skins of deans and department heads 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.010 align:middle line:90% is a terrible misfortune. 00:01:36.010 --> 00:01:38.520 align:middle line:84% I tried to reduce the number of jokes about deans 00:01:38.520 --> 00:01:41.220 align:middle line:84% because there is a dean in the audience. 00:01:41.220 --> 00:01:44.520 align:middle line:84% It's a terrible misfortune on an evening made for art 00:01:44.520 --> 00:01:48.100 align:middle line:84% and even to give voice to one in a sentence is too many. 00:01:48.100 --> 00:01:52.210 align:middle line:84% And there they are, two of them, in this very sentence. 00:01:52.210 --> 00:01:55.680 align:middle line:90% I ask you, please, forget. 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.730 align:middle line:90% In the end, there are no deans. 00:01:57.730 --> 00:01:59.080 align:middle line:90% There is only art. 00:01:59.080 --> 00:02:01.450 align:middle line:90% There is also Clippy. 00:02:01.450 --> 00:02:04.250 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:02:04.250 --> 00:02:08.419 align:middle line:84% I have come to feel that like Clippy, Microsoft office's 00:02:08.419 --> 00:02:11.840 align:middle line:84% maligned, friendly, useless paperclip assistant, 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:16.400 align:middle line:84% Mary Ruefle exists out of time, that she is existing 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.190 align:middle line:84% on a different scale and relationship to art 00:02:19.190 --> 00:02:21.200 align:middle line:90% and being than I do. 00:02:21.200 --> 00:02:25.830 align:middle line:84% That I am the shortness of an attention span, a blink, a clip, 00:02:25.830 --> 00:02:30.330 align:middle line:84% a TikTok I keep repeating, a tweet on a dying Twitter, 00:02:30.330 --> 00:02:32.690 align:middle line:90% and she is long. 00:02:32.690 --> 00:02:35.090 align:middle line:84% Long as in the long game that she is 00:02:35.090 --> 00:02:36.950 align:middle line:90% playing with her art in books. 00:02:36.950 --> 00:02:43.040 align:middle line:84% In the art wet darkness, Clippy waits, and so does Mary Ruefle. 00:02:43.040 --> 00:02:48.000 align:middle line:84% Only one of them wants to help you write a letter, probably. 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:52.030 align:middle line:84% So I would be surprised, Mary, if you play video games, 00:02:52.030 --> 00:02:56.160 align:middle line:84% but if you did, I would love to talk with you about the 1986 00:02:56.160 --> 00:03:00.270 align:middle line:84% computer game Starflight that I played obsessively when 00:03:00.270 --> 00:03:01.395 align:middle line:90% I was young, in which you-- 00:03:01.395 --> 00:03:04.450 align:middle line:84% --explore space, trying to solve a cosmic mystery, 00:03:04.450 --> 00:03:06.870 align:middle line:84% which probably has to do with an apocalypse or one 00:03:06.870 --> 00:03:08.080 align:middle line:90% sort or another. 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.290 align:middle line:84% Though I don't remember it enough to say. 00:03:10.290 --> 00:03:12.450 align:middle line:84% I remember only the game Mechanic 00:03:12.450 --> 00:03:15.130 align:middle line:84% in which you pilot your ship around the galaxy, 00:03:15.130 --> 00:03:17.800 align:middle line:84% exploring planets and mining their materials, 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:19.290 align:middle line:84% which you need for, I don't know, 00:03:19.290 --> 00:03:21.490 align:middle line:84% upgrades or something in your ship. 00:03:21.490 --> 00:03:23.340 align:middle line:90% Capitalist reasons. 00:03:23.340 --> 00:03:27.810 align:middle line:84% The most important mineral you're looking for is endurium. 00:03:27.810 --> 00:03:28.840 align:middle line:90% Cool name. 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:29.880 align:middle line:90% I know. 00:03:29.880 --> 00:03:32.280 align:middle line:84% Which fuels interstellar flight and is 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:35.490 align:middle line:84% essential for deeper exploration into the galaxy 00:03:35.490 --> 00:03:37.500 align:middle line:84% as we are trying to solve the mystery 00:03:37.500 --> 00:03:40.680 align:middle line:84% of an ancient civilization that disappeared eons 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:42.910 align:middle line:90% ago and foretold our doom. 00:03:42.910 --> 00:03:46.230 align:middle line:84% I promise, we are talking about Mary Ruefle here. 00:03:46.230 --> 00:03:49.540 align:middle line:84% By which I mean we are talking about deeper exploration 00:03:49.540 --> 00:03:51.430 align:middle line:84% at a scale beyond what most of us 00:03:51.430 --> 00:03:54.310 align:middle line:84% are capable of perceiving, which is the magic 00:03:54.310 --> 00:03:57.470 align:middle line:84% she makes in her essays or poems or books. 00:03:57.470 --> 00:03:59.830 align:middle line:84% But we're also talking about Starflight. 00:03:59.830 --> 00:04:02.290 align:middle line:84% And Mary, you may remember that the big reveal 00:04:02.290 --> 00:04:05.440 align:middle line:84% of the plot of the game, as you approach the crystal 00:04:05.440 --> 00:04:08.570 align:middle line:84% planet, dodging the bug like galaxy, 00:04:08.570 --> 00:04:12.050 align:middle line:84% the chill Elowans, the big geckos of the Thrynn, 00:04:12.050 --> 00:04:17.360 align:middle line:84% the blowhard slugs, the Spemin worshiping the blob goddess, 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:20.079 align:middle line:84% the Jesus freaky squid of the Gazurtoids, 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.350 align:middle line:84% and the floating brains of the aggressive Uhlek. 00:04:23.350 --> 00:04:26.260 align:middle line:84% That big reveal is that the endurium 00:04:26.260 --> 00:04:32.210 align:middle line:84% you use to power your hyperspace engines is the ancients. 00:04:32.210 --> 00:04:34.750 align:middle line:90% I want to pause, yeah, exactly. 00:04:34.750 --> 00:04:37.190 align:middle line:90% It's fucking sweet. 00:04:37.190 --> 00:04:40.100 align:middle line:84% The ancient exists on such a long timeline 00:04:40.100 --> 00:04:42.830 align:middle line:84% that what seems to us to be a chunk of mineral 00:04:42.830 --> 00:04:47.240 align:middle line:84% on some random planet, inert, non-conscious, non-sentient, 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.940 align:middle line:90% is actually alive. 00:04:49.940 --> 00:04:51.710 align:middle line:90% What? 00:04:51.710 --> 00:04:54.620 align:middle line:84% These ancient aliens just moved so slowly 00:04:54.620 --> 00:04:57.320 align:middle line:84% and lived so long in many orders of magnitude 00:04:57.320 --> 00:05:01.700 align:middle line:84% more than our human or sexy alien life spans in the games 00:05:01.700 --> 00:05:04.610 align:middle line:84% that we are not able to perceive their movement 00:05:04.610 --> 00:05:06.150 align:middle line:90% or their consciousness. 00:05:06.150 --> 00:05:10.050 align:middle line:84% So we assume they are rocks and then use them for fuel, 00:05:10.050 --> 00:05:12.830 align:middle line:84% chucking them in our interstellar star engines 00:05:12.830 --> 00:05:16.460 align:middle line:84% so we could get to other systems and mine those planets too, 00:05:16.460 --> 00:05:20.300 align:middle line:84% always searching, always looking outward for answers. 00:05:20.300 --> 00:05:21.890 align:middle line:90% I was 11. 00:05:21.890 --> 00:05:25.400 align:middle line:90% This plot blew my freaking mind. 00:05:25.400 --> 00:05:28.010 align:middle line:84% Everything seemed older than me and operating 00:05:28.010 --> 00:05:30.290 align:middle line:84% on a vastly different scale and was 00:05:30.290 --> 00:05:33.480 align:middle line:84% concerned with stuff I could not imagine I would ever care about, 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:37.610 align:middle line:84% such as wine or sex or death or poetry or shrunken heads 00:05:37.610 --> 00:05:39.070 align:middle line:90% or loneliness. 00:05:39.070 --> 00:05:40.850 align:middle line:84% I mean, it seemed to take forever 00:05:40.850 --> 00:05:42.870 align:middle line:90% to get old enough to understand. 00:05:42.870 --> 00:05:46.110 align:middle line:84% And the future I knew then would never arrive. 00:05:46.110 --> 00:05:49.270 align:middle line:84% Mary Ruefle writes about these subjects 00:05:49.270 --> 00:05:51.930 align:middle line:84% but from angles so acute that I believe 00:05:51.930 --> 00:05:55.290 align:middle line:84% she would recognize the intelligence in the endurium 00:05:55.290 --> 00:05:57.290 align:middle line:90% when I did not. 00:05:57.290 --> 00:05:59.910 align:middle line:84% Reading Mary Ruefle, "Shout Out to Dear Friends," 00:05:59.910 --> 00:06:02.230 align:middle line:84% by far my favorite of the essays from your recent book. 00:06:02.230 --> 00:06:04.580 align:middle line:90% That essay is awesome. 00:06:04.580 --> 00:06:07.340 align:middle line:84% It's from the book called The Book, which I never 00:06:07.340 --> 00:06:08.640 align:middle line:90% wanted to be done reading. 00:06:08.640 --> 00:06:10.350 align:middle line:90% I could read that book forever. 00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:12.680 align:middle line:84% Reminds me that the proper scale of art 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:17.580 align:middle line:84% is not the internet or a CV or a grant application, 00:06:17.580 --> 00:06:20.720 align:middle line:84% but the eternity of god, lowercase g. 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:21.710 align:middle line:90% Probably? 00:06:21.710 --> 00:06:25.230 align:middle line:84% I asked with a question mark, not knowing, not really. 00:06:25.230 --> 00:06:28.430 align:middle line:84% Or at least it is the duration of a human thought elongated 00:06:28.430 --> 00:06:30.130 align:middle line:90% forever. 00:06:30.130 --> 00:06:34.010 align:middle line:84% Anyway, this is a long way of saying, I'm sorry, Mary, 00:06:34.010 --> 00:06:35.680 align:middle line:84% that I dropped your class halfway 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:38.270 align:middle line:84% through the first session 24 years ago. 00:06:38.270 --> 00:06:40.030 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:06:40.030 --> 00:06:41.890 align:middle line:84% I figured the best way to repay that debt 00:06:41.890 --> 00:06:43.990 align:middle line:84% was to write poems in the perspective 00:06:43.990 --> 00:06:46.540 align:middle line:90% of an anthropomorphic paperclip. 00:06:46.540 --> 00:06:48.650 align:middle line:84% It took me a while to get the message, 00:06:48.650 --> 00:06:50.500 align:middle line:90% but I think I got it now. 00:06:50.500 --> 00:06:53.860 align:middle line:84% I believe the best way to honor an artist such as Mary Ruefle 00:06:53.860 --> 00:06:57.130 align:middle line:84% is in trying to approach the scale of her sentences, by which 00:06:57.130 --> 00:06:58.570 align:middle line:90% I mean her ideas. 00:06:58.570 --> 00:07:01.970 align:middle line:84% And anyway, I'm sorry for not getting it sooner. 00:07:01.970 --> 00:07:03.530 align:middle line:90% Mary Ruefle, please. 00:07:03.530 --> 00:07:07.180 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE]