WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.418 align:middle line:90% 00:00:00.418 --> 00:00:02.210 align:middle line:84% I just want to say briefly about this book, 00:00:02.210 --> 00:00:04.790 align:middle line:90% just so you know what this is. 00:00:04.790 --> 00:00:12.110 align:middle line:84% In fall 2018, I had been writing poems that eventually ended up 00:00:12.110 --> 00:00:13.520 align:middle line:90% in the book Father's Day. 00:00:13.520 --> 00:00:15.680 align:middle line:84% I'd been writing a lot of poems quickly, 00:00:15.680 --> 00:00:17.480 align:middle line:84% kind of like a poem a day type thing. 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.610 align:middle line:84% And I'd sort of write one and either it would be keeper, 00:00:20.610 --> 00:00:21.120 align:middle line:90% it wouldn't. 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:23.070 align:middle line:90% And I was moving fast. 00:00:23.070 --> 00:00:26.390 align:middle line:84% And I just felt like I needed to slow down. 00:00:26.390 --> 00:00:31.130 align:middle line:84% So I came up with this idea to write a poem as slowly as I 00:00:31.130 --> 00:00:35.330 align:middle line:84% could, a single poem, and to write about writing it and do it 00:00:35.330 --> 00:00:36.360 align:middle line:90% every day. 00:00:36.360 --> 00:00:42.020 align:middle line:84% And that was sort of the idea behind generating 00:00:42.020 --> 00:00:45.080 align:middle line:84% the material that eventually came into this book. 00:00:45.080 --> 00:00:51.860 align:middle line:84% The other thing is that fall 2018 was a difficult time for us 00:00:51.860 --> 00:00:52.520 align:middle line:90% nationally. 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.280 align:middle line:84% It was a time of turmoil that we're 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.530 align:middle line:84% seemed to be entering into, again, politically. 00:00:57.530 --> 00:01:00.440 align:middle line:84% It was also a really tough time in the Bay Area where I live. 00:01:00.440 --> 00:01:03.710 align:middle line:84% It was the first really bad fire season, 00:01:03.710 --> 00:01:06.870 align:middle line:84% a lot of wearing of masks and just not 00:01:06.870 --> 00:01:08.120 align:middle line:90% being able to breathe outside. 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.700 align:middle line:84% So the sort of reality of climate change 00:01:10.700 --> 00:01:14.600 align:middle line:90% really hit very hard that year. 00:01:14.600 --> 00:01:20.690 align:middle line:84% And just a few years before, my son had been diagnosed as being 00:01:20.690 --> 00:01:25.730 align:middle line:84% on the autism spectrum, and which was a big change 00:01:25.730 --> 00:01:29.280 align:middle line:84% in my parenting expectations and my wife's. 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:31.650 align:middle line:90% And so we were processing that. 00:01:31.650 --> 00:01:34.800 align:middle line:84% And so that's also part of what I was 00:01:34.800 --> 00:01:36.490 align:middle line:90% trying to work my way through. 00:01:36.490 --> 00:01:38.710 align:middle line:84% And I also quit drinking at the same time. 00:01:38.710 --> 00:01:39.960 align:middle line:90% So it was very exciting time. 00:01:39.960 --> 00:01:40.950 align:middle line:90% It was a lot going on. 00:01:40.950 --> 00:01:44.142 align:middle line:84% So it was either the perfect time or the worst possible time 00:01:44.142 --> 00:01:44.850 align:middle line:90% to quit drinking. 00:01:44.850 --> 00:01:45.392 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 00:01:45.392 --> 00:01:46.620 align:middle line:90% But it was anyway. 00:01:46.620 --> 00:01:48.160 align:middle line:90% So all that's happening. 00:01:48.160 --> 00:01:50.640 align:middle line:84% So the book kind of traces this one poem. 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.860 align:middle line:84% And it has drafts in it, as you can see. 00:01:53.860 --> 00:01:57.720 align:middle line:84% And so I write about writing and about parenting and about 00:01:57.720 --> 00:01:59.980 align:middle line:84% reading and about all kinds of things. 00:01:59.980 --> 00:02:02.220 align:middle line:90% And, Jody, I'm glad to hear it. 00:02:02.220 --> 00:02:04.260 align:middle line:90% You think it holds together. 00:02:04.260 --> 00:02:06.270 align:middle line:90% So I'll read a bit from it. 00:02:06.270 --> 00:02:09.009 align:middle line:84% And then move into some poems and then do that. 00:02:09.009 --> 00:02:12.530 align:middle line:84% So thank you again for listening. 00:02:12.530 --> 00:02:14.650 align:middle line:90% I woke up in California. 00:02:14.650 --> 00:02:17.120 align:middle line:90% First draft. 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.040 align:middle line:84% It's 5:00 AM, and the busy street is quiet. 00:02:21.040 --> 00:02:25.120 align:middle line:84% Outside the window, the leaves of the trees are black. 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:29.440 align:middle line:84% Wires slice through the darkness, making dark shapes. 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:32.790 align:middle line:84% The sky gradually becomes visible. 00:02:32.790 --> 00:02:38.340 align:middle line:84% I can feel Sarah and Simon still asleep in the rooms behind me. 00:02:38.340 --> 00:02:40.560 align:middle line:84% For a moment, I can almost imagine 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.330 align:middle line:90% I'm at the prow of a ship, 00:02:42.330 --> 00:02:47.090 align:middle line:84% Sitting still as the world rotates into unhelpful light. 00:02:47.090 --> 00:02:49.250 align:middle line:90% A little tremor shakes the desk. 00:02:49.250 --> 00:02:51.620 align:middle line:90% And I feel a flash of panic. 00:02:51.620 --> 00:02:57.040 align:middle line:84% But it's not an earthquake, just a lone truck passing. 00:02:57.040 --> 00:02:59.410 align:middle line:84% Last night, as I was putting him to bed, 00:02:59.410 --> 00:03:02.830 align:middle line:84% I told him that something would happen in two sleeps. 00:03:02.830 --> 00:03:05.410 align:middle line:84% It's something I've heard other parents say. 00:03:05.410 --> 00:03:07.870 align:middle line:84% And I found it coming out of my mouth. 00:03:07.870 --> 00:03:10.090 align:middle line:90% I didn't know if he'd heard me. 00:03:10.090 --> 00:03:13.120 align:middle line:84% Lost as he so often was, in singing 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.190 align:middle line:90% one of his favorite songs. 00:03:15.190 --> 00:03:17.740 align:middle line:90% Often, he will seem not to hear. 00:03:17.740 --> 00:03:20.530 align:middle line:84% But then a few hours or days later, 00:03:20.530 --> 00:03:23.590 align:middle line:84% Will repeat what was said, or answer a question 00:03:23.590 --> 00:03:26.770 align:middle line:90% asked minutes or even hours ago. 00:03:26.770 --> 00:03:29.680 align:middle line:84% Sometimes months later, he will repeat something 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.450 align:middle line:90% I said to him laughing. 00:03:31.450 --> 00:03:35.050 align:middle line:84% It's as if he and I are in an endless conversation. 00:03:35.050 --> 00:03:40.170 align:middle line:84% The pace of which is slower than I could ever have imagined. 00:03:40.170 --> 00:03:43.320 align:middle line:84% All summer, I had been writing a new poem every morning 00:03:43.320 --> 00:03:45.120 align:middle line:90% and emailing it to Matt. 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.730 align:middle line:84% He would send me a new poem back too. 00:03:47.730 --> 00:03:50.610 align:middle line:84% I told myself and believed that these were just 00:03:50.610 --> 00:03:54.090 align:middle line:84% practice for what would eventually be the real writing, 00:03:54.090 --> 00:03:58.050 align:middle line:84% A neat trick impossible to deliberately replicate. 00:03:58.050 --> 00:04:01.270 align:middle line:84% I never had a plan or any idea where to begin. 00:04:01.270 --> 00:04:03.150 align:middle line:84% I would sometimes choose a phrase 00:04:03.150 --> 00:04:07.200 align:middle line:84% that seemed to glow with at least a little potential. 00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:10.500 align:middle line:84% This autumn morning, I remember Matt once 00:04:10.500 --> 00:04:14.580 align:middle line:84% showed me how you can start a poem by putting one or two lines 00:04:14.580 --> 00:04:15.930 align:middle line:90% in the middle of the page, 00:04:15.930 --> 00:04:18.269 align:middle line:84% And then writing out from them, alternating a line 00:04:18.269 --> 00:04:20.100 align:middle line:90% before then one after. 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:23.370 align:middle line:84% He said this method came to him in a dream. 00:04:23.370 --> 00:04:26.670 align:middle line:84% Two sleeps, I type in the middle of the page. 00:04:26.670 --> 00:04:29.880 align:middle line:84% Then roll the platon up one line to type above it, 00:04:29.880 --> 00:04:32.790 align:middle line:84% Something that could make sense a line before. 00:04:32.790 --> 00:04:36.120 align:middle line:84% Then back down, to type something that could go after. 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:40.380 align:middle line:84% In the redwoods, two sleeps watch over. 00:04:40.380 --> 00:04:41.730 align:middle line:90% Watch over what? 00:04:41.730 --> 00:04:43.300 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 00:04:43.300 --> 00:04:44.680 align:middle line:90% It's just a beginning. 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.070 align:middle line:84% But as Bob Hass says, you can't revise nothing, 00:04:48.070 --> 00:04:51.380 align:middle line:84% Not until nothing becomes a few words. 00:04:51.380 --> 00:04:54.100 align:middle line:84% When you have no ideas or too many, 00:04:54.100 --> 00:04:57.730 align:middle line:84% It's best to find a few words that seem to have potential, 00:04:57.730 --> 00:05:00.210 align:middle line:90% For now inexplicable. 00:05:00.210 --> 00:05:04.200 align:middle line:84% The painter Degas once said to his friend, Mallarmé, 00:05:04.200 --> 00:05:08.190 align:middle line:84% I want to write poems, but I have too many ideas. 00:05:08.190 --> 00:05:13.020 align:middle line:84% Mallarmé replied, poems, my dear Degas, are not made of ideas, 00:05:13.020 --> 00:05:14.700 align:middle line:90% but of words. 00:05:14.700 --> 00:05:18.450 align:middle line:84% Poetry makes nothing happen, W.H. Auden wrote, 00:05:18.450 --> 00:05:20.650 align:middle line:84% Which doesn't mean it does nothing. 00:05:20.650 --> 00:05:22.650 align:middle line:90% It makes nothing happen. 00:05:22.650 --> 00:05:24.870 align:middle line:90% It activates the silence. 00:05:24.870 --> 00:05:29.030 align:middle line:84% You begin, and now there's something to listen to. 00:05:29.030 --> 00:05:30.000 align:middle line:90%