WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.740 align:middle line:90% 00:00:04.740 --> 00:00:07.590 align:middle line:84% I was fortunate enough to get a long poem published 00:00:07.590 --> 00:00:10.960 align:middle line:84% in the Best American Poetry this year, 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:13.140 align:middle line:84% which shocked the heck out of me, 00:00:13.140 --> 00:00:19.230 align:middle line:84% but I wanted to read you a little bit of this. 00:00:19.230 --> 00:00:21.290 align:middle line:84% I don't know why I'm into these really long poems 00:00:21.290 --> 00:00:24.150 align:middle line:90% but this is not as long as that. 00:00:24.150 --> 00:00:27.440 align:middle line:84% So if you're starting to twitch, I'll be merciful. 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.800 align:middle line:84% But I thought it was interesting because it's a poetic bridge 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:32.390 align:middle line:90% between my materials. 00:00:32.390 --> 00:00:35.060 align:middle line:84% I'm so concerned about all these things 00:00:35.060 --> 00:00:37.520 align:middle line:84% that are constantly separating us and breaking us 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.040 align:middle line:84% apart and setting us against each other. 00:00:40.040 --> 00:00:42.590 align:middle line:84% And in this book tour, I may have mentioned, 00:00:42.590 --> 00:00:46.490 align:middle line:84% but doing radio call-in shows in Los Angeles when you've 00:00:46.490 --> 00:00:50.600 align:middle line:84% written a book praising illegal immigrants is really a bad idea. 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:51.923 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:00:51.923 --> 00:00:53.690 align:middle line:90% 00:00:53.690 --> 00:00:56.450 align:middle line:90% I'll tell you. 00:00:56.450 --> 00:00:59.810 align:middle line:84% And I start my new book with a quote by Richard Rodriguez. 00:00:59.810 --> 00:01:01.910 align:middle line:84% It says, the illegal immigrant is the prophet. 00:01:01.910 --> 00:01:03.920 align:middle line:84% He's the bravest and strongest among us 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.770 align:middle line:84% and he knows what's happening long before a California 00:01:06.770 --> 00:01:08.540 align:middle line:90% suburbanite knows it. 00:01:08.540 --> 00:01:12.023 align:middle line:84% And the radio guy said to me, did you ever box? 00:01:12.023 --> 00:01:12.690 align:middle line:90% And I said, why? 00:01:12.690 --> 00:01:15.140 align:middle line:84% He said, because you sure are leading with your chin. 00:01:15.140 --> 00:01:16.175 align:middle line:90% I thought, oh, man. 00:01:16.175 --> 00:01:19.100 align:middle line:90% 00:01:19.100 --> 00:01:21.710 align:middle line:90% Oh, darn it. 00:01:21.710 --> 00:01:25.820 align:middle line:84% So I'm desperately hoping that, if anything, 00:01:25.820 --> 00:01:29.780 align:middle line:84% I can at least try to lay out some rudimentary bridges 00:01:29.780 --> 00:01:32.240 align:middle line:84% between us because I hate the things that separate us. 00:01:32.240 --> 00:01:37.850 align:middle line:84% And I think they're mostly lies, certainly propaganda. 00:01:37.850 --> 00:01:41.570 align:middle line:84% And one of the experiences I had when on my macho safaris 00:01:41.570 --> 00:01:43.472 align:middle line:90% with my dad was the-- 00:01:43.472 --> 00:01:47.030 align:middle line:90% 00:01:47.030 --> 00:01:48.800 align:middle line:84% I don't know how to put this delicately-- 00:01:48.800 --> 00:01:52.520 align:middle line:84% the classic experience of being taken to a house of ill repute 00:01:52.520 --> 00:01:53.840 align:middle line:90% as a boy. 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.770 align:middle line:84% And it was a very peculiar experience for me 00:01:57.770 --> 00:02:00.170 align:middle line:84% because I did not want to be there 00:02:00.170 --> 00:02:03.320 align:middle line:90% and I was only 12 years old. 00:02:03.320 --> 00:02:07.220 align:middle line:84% And they had selected somebody for me who scared me so bad. 00:02:07.220 --> 00:02:10.280 align:middle line:90% 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.110 align:middle line:84% She looked just like Tina Turner. 00:02:12.110 --> 00:02:13.094 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:02:13.094 --> 00:02:14.570 align:middle line:90% 00:02:14.570 --> 00:02:18.000 align:middle line:84% But she had tarantulas for eyelashes. 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:19.250 align:middle line:90% These gigantic things. 00:02:19.250 --> 00:02:23.192 align:middle line:90% 00:02:23.192 --> 00:02:25.400 align:middle line:84% And I didn't know how I was going to get out of this. 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:26.160 align:middle line:90% I really didn't. 00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:28.460 align:middle line:84% Because it was presented to me as a great noble thing. 00:02:28.460 --> 00:02:32.900 align:middle line:84% The men have collected the money for you, you little punk. 00:02:32.900 --> 00:02:35.300 align:middle line:90% Go do it. 00:02:35.300 --> 00:02:38.570 align:middle line:84% So we were sitting there and I was watching this place. 00:02:38.570 --> 00:02:44.660 align:middle line:84% And one of the fellows confessed that he was 21 years old 00:02:44.660 --> 00:02:47.120 align:middle line:90% and had never been with anybody. 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:51.590 align:middle line:84% And I leapt to my feet and made an instant soliloquy. 00:02:51.590 --> 00:02:52.625 align:middle line:90% Beloved brothers! 00:02:52.625 --> 00:02:56.270 align:middle line:90% 00:02:56.270 --> 00:02:58.730 align:middle line:84% Although this is the most beautiful gesture 00:02:58.730 --> 00:03:03.180 align:middle line:84% anyone's ever made for me, brother Gilbert has never been. 00:03:03.180 --> 00:03:05.360 align:middle line:84% And so they gave him the money and sent him off. 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.000 align:middle line:90% 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.740 align:middle line:90% And I got out of it. 00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:12.440 align:middle line:84% But the more I thought about this place, 00:03:12.440 --> 00:03:14.210 align:middle line:90% the more it bothered me. 00:03:14.210 --> 00:03:17.330 align:middle line:84% It was so rogue-full and so naughty. 00:03:17.330 --> 00:03:18.920 align:middle line:90% We were such boys. 00:03:18.920 --> 00:03:22.250 align:middle line:84% But I thought about the women in there the more and more I 00:03:22.250 --> 00:03:23.180 align:middle line:90% thought about it. 00:03:23.180 --> 00:03:26.550 align:middle line:84% And one Christmas I was staying down there, 00:03:26.550 --> 00:03:30.710 align:middle line:84% and I decided to go back to see this place. 00:03:30.710 --> 00:03:36.980 align:middle line:84% And it was much more alarming this time that I was grown up. 00:03:36.980 --> 00:03:39.410 align:middle line:84% And an old woman in the town who had 00:03:39.410 --> 00:03:44.870 align:middle line:84% been the Nina, the sort of steadying female hand for all 00:03:44.870 --> 00:03:47.750 align:middle line:84% these wild cousins of mine when they were little boys, now 00:03:47.750 --> 00:03:52.838 align:middle line:84% works in an organization helping these women who do this work. 00:03:52.838 --> 00:03:54.380 align:middle line:84% And I should have known from the work 00:03:54.380 --> 00:03:57.980 align:middle line:84% I was doing in Mexico what their situation was. 00:03:57.980 --> 00:04:00.230 align:middle line:84% But the majority of women working that work 00:04:00.230 --> 00:04:02.420 align:middle line:84% are, of course, sending all of their earnings home 00:04:02.420 --> 00:04:04.880 align:middle line:84% to their children or their parents 00:04:04.880 --> 00:04:07.385 align:middle line:84% and working as slaves, almost, in these places. 00:04:07.385 --> 00:04:09.950 align:middle line:90% 00:04:09.950 --> 00:04:14.200 align:middle line:84% So it made me vividly and shockingly remember a moment. 00:04:14.200 --> 00:04:15.760 align:middle line:84% And this is one of those poems that 00:04:15.760 --> 00:04:18.415 align:middle line:84% comes directly from Mr. Anderson's suggestion of ghosts 00:04:18.415 --> 00:04:21.850 align:middle line:84% of small gestures because one little tiny moment happened 00:04:21.850 --> 00:04:23.480 align:middle line:90% and it's bugged me forever. 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:24.950 align:middle line:90% That's what this poem is about. 00:04:24.950 --> 00:04:26.710 align:middle line:84% And it was just making eye contact 00:04:26.710 --> 00:04:29.130 align:middle line:90% for one second with somebody. 00:04:29.130 --> 00:04:31.300 align:middle line:84% So this is that section of this poem, 00:04:31.300 --> 00:04:32.800 align:middle line:84% which is called "Ghost Sickness." 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:33.660 align:middle line:90% And this is part 10. 00:04:33.660 --> 00:04:36.410 align:middle line:90% 00:04:36.410 --> 00:04:38.990 align:middle line:84% And then maybe if you want to chat or something, we can chat. 00:04:38.990 --> 00:04:41.820 align:middle line:84% Because maybe you might have some comments or questions. 00:04:41.820 --> 00:04:44.000 align:middle line:84% I love to hear what people have to say. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:49.040 align:middle line:84% "Drive mad across town, radio tuned to sizzle spit mariachi 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:49.820 align:middle line:90% howls. 00:04:49.820 --> 00:04:53.060 align:middle line:84% Drunk, white hat wolves, six-gun poets, 00:04:53.060 --> 00:04:55.790 align:middle line:84% bawling pagan gospels of tequila. 00:04:55.790 --> 00:04:59.600 align:middle line:90% Love, murder, ruin. 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:03.980 align:middle line:84% Six men in a Volkswagen, uncountable ghosts on the roof 00:05:03.980 --> 00:05:05.510 align:middle line:90% hung on for dear death. 00:05:05.510 --> 00:05:09.560 align:middle line:84% Rubber burned on cobbles as we spun another corner, laughter's 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:11.420 align:middle line:90% nasty calliope calling. 00:05:11.420 --> 00:05:15.140 align:middle line:84% Dog bark, midnight outskirts of some flyspeck town. 00:05:15.140 --> 00:05:18.890 align:middle line:84% Cemetery next door to the whorehouse away where 00:05:18.890 --> 00:05:20.960 align:middle line:84% the shouts, and the shooting, and the trumpets, 00:05:20.960 --> 00:05:24.890 align:middle line:90% and the shatter wake no one. 00:05:24.890 --> 00:05:28.370 align:middle line:84% Grass shacks lined the compound where 00:05:28.370 --> 00:05:36.790 align:middle line:84% the women slept with wash tubs and TVs, candy, photos, 00:05:36.790 --> 00:05:45.400 align:middle line:84% cigarettes, radios, memories, chamber pots, underpants, 00:05:45.400 --> 00:05:50.350 align:middle line:84% makeup, nightmares, and one bundle each 00:05:50.350 --> 00:05:53.680 align:middle line:84% of rubber band letters from some dream boy who 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:56.630 align:middle line:90% went and never came back. 00:05:56.630 --> 00:06:00.770 align:middle line:84% Dig that sign, Club Verde Para Hombres. 00:06:00.770 --> 00:06:03.320 align:middle line:84% Fat cops at the door touched us all over, 00:06:03.320 --> 00:06:08.150 align:middle line:84% felt us for .38s .44s and hung the pistols on pigs by the bar. 00:06:08.150 --> 00:06:11.350 align:middle line:90% 00:06:11.350 --> 00:06:15.340 align:middle line:84% Inside, shaky leg tables of tin, flaking stickers 00:06:15.340 --> 00:06:19.330 align:middle line:84% stuck to our forearms, bright paper freckles, Tecate, Dos 00:06:19.330 --> 00:06:23.230 align:middle line:90% Equis, Corona, Carta Blanca. 00:06:23.230 --> 00:06:27.460 align:middle line:84% Concrete dance floor stained into maps of lost worlds by beer 00:06:27.460 --> 00:06:32.200 align:middle line:84% spilled by boot heels, by flat women's sandals and black hair 00:06:32.200 --> 00:06:35.970 align:middle line:90% dyed orange as cheap boots. 00:06:35.970 --> 00:06:39.420 align:middle line:84% And in the corner, rock and roll. 00:06:39.420 --> 00:06:43.680 align:middle line:84% A blind guitarist followed the sounds with his head, 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.580 align:middle line:84% thin as sticks, moved like a metronome singing, 00:06:47.580 --> 00:06:49.590 align:middle line:90% all you need is love. 00:06:49.590 --> 00:06:53.490 align:middle line:90% 00:06:53.490 --> 00:06:55.950 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:06:55.950 --> 00:06:58.050 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:06:58.050 --> 00:07:00.570 align:middle line:90% You can buy it here. 00:07:00.570 --> 00:07:03.750 align:middle line:84% Unzip your hair, pull off your skin. 00:07:03.750 --> 00:07:05.490 align:middle line:90% We watched them dance. 00:07:05.490 --> 00:07:09.150 align:middle line:84% Farmhands worked hard at having fun. 00:07:09.150 --> 00:07:13.260 align:middle line:84% And all those dresses in the farmer's hands were gone limp, 00:07:13.260 --> 00:07:15.660 align:middle line:90% wilted by 1,000 palms. 00:07:15.660 --> 00:07:17.370 align:middle line:90% And we danced with them. 00:07:17.370 --> 00:07:19.460 align:middle line:90% Love is all-- [AUDIO OUT] 00:07:19.460 --> 00:07:24.240 align:middle line:90% And one bowl, one woman. 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.940 align:middle line:90% No exit. 00:07:26.940 --> 00:07:32.800 align:middle line:84% I saw the crucifix above her bed and then her. 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.260 align:middle line:84% Cigarette burns tattooed her arms. 00:07:35.260 --> 00:07:39.250 align:middle line:84% Through an open door, I saw, love is all you need. 00:07:39.250 --> 00:07:42.070 align:middle line:84% She dipped a knotted flower rag into her bowl 00:07:42.070 --> 00:07:45.520 align:middle line:84% and ran the water down her chest, her neck, her leg. 00:07:45.520 --> 00:07:49.540 align:middle line:90% Her other leg so tired it shook. 00:07:49.540 --> 00:07:55.330 align:middle line:84% I knew that hair as thin as mist uncurled for moistened flesh 00:07:55.330 --> 00:07:57.070 align:middle line:90% and rose. 00:07:57.070 --> 00:07:59.950 align:middle line:84% She wiped her nodding breasts under her dress, 00:07:59.950 --> 00:08:02.800 align:middle line:84% washed off the heat, washed off the weight, 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:07.180 align:middle line:84% washed off the smell, the feel, the fingerprints. 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:11.260 align:middle line:90% And then looked up. 00:08:11.260 --> 00:08:15.340 align:middle line:84% I smiled across the room, embarrassed rogue 00:08:15.340 --> 00:08:17.620 align:middle line:90% through sheets of smoke. 00:08:17.620 --> 00:08:22.740 align:middle line:84% And her stare burned my smile to ash. 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:26.710 align:middle line:90% You smile so easily, muchacho. 00:08:26.710 --> 00:08:31.520 align:middle line:84% You think you offer me condolences or is this business? 00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:33.860 align:middle line:90% Do you think you understand? 00:08:33.860 --> 00:08:35.659 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:08:35.659 --> 00:08:39.860 align:middle line:84% You'll never understand until you lie here 10 or 20 nights 00:08:39.860 --> 00:08:41.720 align:middle line:90% and dream of home. 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.520 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:08:43.520 --> 00:08:45.620 align:middle line:84% You can spend money to rest in me. 00:08:45.620 --> 00:08:48.230 align:middle line:84% I'll carry you, would you carry me? 00:08:48.230 --> 00:08:50.130 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:08:50.130 --> 00:08:51.930 align:middle line:84% And if we meet at noon in the town, 00:08:51.930 --> 00:08:54.140 align:middle line:84% plazuela, you with your notebooks 00:08:54.140 --> 00:08:58.670 align:middle line:84% and me with my flowers, always careful not to greet anybody. 00:08:58.670 --> 00:09:00.800 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:05.360 align:middle line:84% You will look away, ashamed of what you put here. 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.630 align:middle line:84% And I will walk away out of town the long way 00:09:08.630 --> 00:09:12.980 align:middle line:84% because the best part you bought for me was silence. 00:09:12.980 --> 00:09:15.890 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:09:15.890 --> 00:09:17.960 align:middle line:84% Neither one looks back and then you go. 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:23.660 align:middle line:84% But I remain tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. 00:09:23.660 --> 00:09:26.780 align:middle line:90% Love is all you need. 00:09:26.780 --> 00:09:30.080 align:middle line:84% Her lips were smeared the color of crushed smiles. 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.470 align:middle line:84% I pointed to my mouth, she wiped her face. 00:09:33.470 --> 00:09:37.130 align:middle line:84% The knot of cotton flowers cleaned her teeth. 00:09:37.130 --> 00:09:39.930 align:middle line:90% We waved. 00:09:39.930 --> 00:09:44.100 align:middle line:84% The blind guitarist shrieking in the corner. 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:47.580 align:middle line:84% The twisted Jesus writhing in his torture. 00:09:47.580 --> 00:09:50.580 align:middle line:84% The brilliant coin cascade that hit her bed, 00:09:50.580 --> 00:09:53.280 align:middle line:90% a dark ranchero pushing in. 00:09:53.280 --> 00:09:56.220 align:middle line:84% She glanced at me, her hands at head. 00:09:56.220 --> 00:09:58.350 align:middle line:90% At heart, sign of the cross. 00:09:58.350 --> 00:09:59.610 align:middle line:90% The closing door. 00:09:59.610 --> 00:10:01.880 align:middle line:84% She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah." 00:10:01.880 --> 00:10:04.241 align:middle line:90% 00:10:04.241 --> 00:10:04.741 align:middle line:90% [? 00:10:04.741 --> 00:10:05.642 align:middle line:90% That one. ?] 00:10:05.642 --> 00:10:07.610 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:10:07.610 --> 00:10:10.070 align:middle line:90% 00:10:10.070 --> 00:10:11.054 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:10:11.054 --> 00:10:17.960 align:middle line:90% 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:19.883 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 00:10:19.883 --> 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