WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.170 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.170 --> 00:00:05.040 align:middle line:84% In the sort of question and answer session 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:08.310 align:middle line:84% this afternoon, one of the things 00:00:08.310 --> 00:00:16.570 align:middle line:84% that we were talking about was allusions and the way 00:00:16.570 --> 00:00:21.430 align:middle line:84% in which, if one comes out of a particular culture 00:00:21.430 --> 00:00:33.990 align:middle line:84% and tradition, allusions are not necessarily 00:00:33.990 --> 00:00:40.860 align:middle line:84% going to find a universal resonance 00:00:40.860 --> 00:00:45.510 align:middle line:84% and that it is increasingly difficult at this particular 00:00:45.510 --> 00:00:48.420 align:middle line:84% period in American history, I think, 00:00:48.420 --> 00:00:53.400 align:middle line:84% for writers of my generation, and perhaps, particularly, 00:00:53.400 --> 00:00:57.990 align:middle line:84% for someone who didn't even start in America 00:00:57.990 --> 00:01:02.170 align:middle line:84% but came here after I was married-- 00:01:02.170 --> 00:01:03.210 align:middle line:90% I grew up in England-- 00:01:03.210 --> 00:01:08.310 align:middle line:90% 00:01:08.310 --> 00:01:16.490 align:middle line:84% particularly difficult to count on one's readers 00:01:16.490 --> 00:01:18.980 align:middle line:84% knowing the same things that one knows 00:01:18.980 --> 00:01:21.410 align:middle line:84% and which one used to sort of take for granted 00:01:21.410 --> 00:01:25.340 align:middle line:84% were common knowledge, because that whole range 00:01:25.340 --> 00:01:29.960 align:middle line:84% of common knowledge, there is so much input in our lives now 00:01:29.960 --> 00:01:33.290 align:middle line:84% and I suppose there will be more and more. 00:01:33.290 --> 00:01:36.122 align:middle line:90% It's very confusing. 00:01:36.122 --> 00:01:37.820 align:middle line:90% Nobody can know it all. 00:01:37.820 --> 00:01:47.920 align:middle line:84% And if Western culture and its traditions of what one 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:56.080 align:middle line:84% comes out of, one has to use those allusions 00:01:56.080 --> 00:02:05.040 align:middle line:84% but they more and more seem to need footnoting. 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:11.680 align:middle line:84% Well, this poem, I suppose is, in a way, an example of that 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:17.790 align:middle line:84% because this poem talks about John Ruskin 00:02:17.790 --> 00:02:22.050 align:middle line:90% and it quotes a lot from Ruskin. 00:02:22.050 --> 00:02:29.190 align:middle line:84% So I hope it wouldn't be inaccessible to somebody 00:02:29.190 --> 00:02:30.930 align:middle line:90% that knew nothing about Ruskin. 00:02:30.930 --> 00:02:34.350 align:middle line:84% I hope it sort of makes itself reasonably accessible. 00:02:34.350 --> 00:02:37.470 align:middle line:84% But, on the other hand, if you did know something 00:02:37.470 --> 00:02:42.440 align:middle line:84% about Ruskin, it would have a context that would give it 00:02:42.440 --> 00:02:45.270 align:middle line:90% a different kind of resonance. 00:02:45.270 --> 00:02:47.670 align:middle line:84% It also talks about John Muir and I 00:02:47.670 --> 00:02:52.080 align:middle line:84% think one can, at the moment, count on the fact 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:58.640 align:middle line:84% that people who read poetry and go to poetry readings 00:02:58.640 --> 00:03:04.160 align:middle line:84% also care about the wilderness and animal ecology 00:03:04.160 --> 00:03:08.150 align:middle line:84% and therefore they would know who John Muir is. 00:03:08.150 --> 00:03:14.918 align:middle line:84% All the quotes in here are from Ruskin. 00:03:14.918 --> 00:03:16.800 align:middle line:84% It's called "The Faithful Lover." 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.740 align:middle line:90% 00:03:20.740 --> 00:03:24.900 align:middle line:84% "Play with a few decades, shift them. 00:03:24.900 --> 00:03:30.370 align:middle line:84% Try to imagine Ruskin in the new world walking with John 00:03:30.370 --> 00:03:34.640 align:middle line:90% Muir in the wilderness. 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:38.690 align:middle line:84% He, who's enraptured first sight of the Alps, 00:03:38.690 --> 00:03:43.220 align:middle line:84% transformed him, that meek Protestant Sunday, 00:03:43.220 --> 00:03:46.340 align:middle line:84% when he and mama and papa and dull 00:03:46.340 --> 00:03:50.750 align:middle line:84% cousin Mary were patiently waiting the secular week's 00:03:50.750 --> 00:03:54.710 align:middle line:84% beginning before attempting the sites, 00:03:54.710 --> 00:04:00.080 align:middle line:84% but all unawares came face-to-face with the sublime. 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:06.110 align:middle line:84% Unmistakably not clouds, surpassing all that engravings 00:04:06.110 --> 00:04:07.670 align:middle line:90% had promised. 00:04:07.670 --> 00:04:12.770 align:middle line:84% Floating west of Schaffhausen, sharp, 00:04:12.770 --> 00:04:21.620 align:middle line:84% tinged with rose, far into bloom, suddenly beyond. 00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:26.150 align:middle line:84% Changed him from docile prig, for a child- 00:04:26.150 --> 00:04:31.550 align:middle line:84% he was 14 and knew so much and so little-- 00:04:31.550 --> 00:04:34.535 align:middle line:84% to a man of passion, whatever his failings. 00:04:34.535 --> 00:04:39.380 align:middle line:90% 00:04:39.380 --> 00:04:42.520 align:middle line:90% Imagine him in Yosemite. 00:04:42.520 --> 00:04:49.840 align:middle line:84% Would loyalties already divided, rock simple or rock wort, 00:04:49.840 --> 00:04:57.850 align:middle line:84% strata of mountains, strata of human craft, tools of geology 00:04:57.850 --> 00:05:02.870 align:middle line:90% or tools of art have split him? 00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:06.350 align:middle line:84% Would wilderness, legends unknown, 00:05:06.350 --> 00:05:10.340 align:middle line:84% or, if known, offering no toehold for his mind's 00:05:10.340 --> 00:05:13.550 align:middle line:84% expectant footing, have swept him 00:05:13.550 --> 00:05:17.600 align:middle line:84% wholly into its torrents of non-human grandeur? 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.110 align:middle line:90% 00:05:21.110 --> 00:05:23.465 align:middle line:84% Or wouldn't art have pulled him back 00:05:23.465 --> 00:05:28.670 align:middle line:84% in the end to layered history felt in the bones. 00:05:28.670 --> 00:05:32.210 align:middle line:84% Even geology a fraction of that insistence, 00:05:32.210 --> 00:05:36.530 align:middle line:84% loved for its poetry of form, color, textures. 00:05:36.530 --> 00:05:40.640 align:middle line:90% Not as a scientist, loves it. 00:05:40.640 --> 00:05:47.870 align:middle line:84% Back to where human hands created rich tessellations 00:05:47.870 --> 00:05:53.720 align:middle line:84% or the shadowy rialto through its colossal curve, 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:59.510 align:middle line:84% slowly forth, that strange curve, so delicate, 00:05:59.510 --> 00:06:04.070 align:middle line:84% so adamantine, strong as a mountain cavern, 00:06:04.070 --> 00:06:06.785 align:middle line:90% graceful as a bow just bent. 00:06:06.785 --> 00:06:09.330 align:middle line:90% 00:06:09.330 --> 00:06:15.780 align:middle line:84% Back to where nature, even the Alps, still so remote, 00:06:15.780 --> 00:06:19.860 align:middle line:84% unsung through so many centuries, 00:06:19.860 --> 00:06:24.840 align:middle line:84% lay in the net or nest of perception. 00:06:24.840 --> 00:06:32.500 align:middle line:84% Seen then, re-seen, recognized, wrought in myth." 00:06:32.500 --> 00:06:33.000 align:middle line:90%