WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.780 align:middle line:84% I was part of a workshop one time. 00:00:03.780 --> 00:00:07.170 align:middle line:84% And one of the poet leaders of the workshop was tough. 00:00:07.170 --> 00:00:09.120 align:middle line:84% He was really berating people because they 00:00:09.120 --> 00:00:11.970 align:middle line:90% didn't study the masters. 00:00:11.970 --> 00:00:14.430 align:middle line:84% And I believe in studying the masters too, 00:00:14.430 --> 00:00:18.930 align:middle line:84% but my definition of the masters is a bit different from his. 00:00:18.930 --> 00:00:22.050 align:middle line:84% And he was telling people that you got to study the masters, 00:00:22.050 --> 00:00:23.700 align:middle line:90% and it's very important. 00:00:23.700 --> 00:00:27.990 align:middle line:84% And he named, he said he had 20 poets 00:00:27.990 --> 00:00:32.640 align:middle line:84% that he had people study so that they would know the masters. 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:39.210 align:middle line:84% He named 10 of them, all white males, mostly dead. 00:00:39.210 --> 00:00:40.620 align:middle line:90% Which is fine, you know. 00:00:40.620 --> 00:00:46.680 align:middle line:84% But when I spoke after he did, and he is a friend. 00:00:46.680 --> 00:00:47.490 align:middle line:90% We're friends. 00:00:47.490 --> 00:00:50.550 align:middle line:84% We agree on nothing, but we're friends. 00:00:50.550 --> 00:00:53.550 align:middle line:84% And I said that I was sure that had he 00:00:53.550 --> 00:00:57.870 align:middle line:84% been allowed to name the entire list of 20, 00:00:57.870 --> 00:01:02.970 align:middle line:84% he would surely have included Joy Harjo. 00:01:02.970 --> 00:01:07.440 align:middle line:84% He would surely have included Li-Young Lee. 00:01:07.440 --> 00:01:10.500 align:middle line:84% There were many people he would surely have included had he 00:01:10.500 --> 00:01:13.470 align:middle line:90% been allowed to name them all. 00:01:13.470 --> 00:01:17.350 align:middle line:84% And I thought about that and I thought about mastery. 00:01:17.350 --> 00:01:21.090 align:middle line:84% This is called "study the masters." 00:01:21.090 --> 00:01:24.900 align:middle line:90% Like my aunt Timmie. 00:01:24.900 --> 00:01:29.550 align:middle line:84% It was her iron or one like hers that 00:01:29.550 --> 00:01:35.610 align:middle line:84% smoothed the sheets the master poet slept on. 00:01:35.610 --> 00:01:39.630 align:middle line:84% Home or hotel, what matters is he 00:01:39.630 --> 00:01:45.870 align:middle line:84% lay himself down on her handiwork and dreamed. 00:01:45.870 --> 00:01:52.050 align:middle line:84% She dreamed too: words, some Cherokee, some Maasai, 00:01:52.050 --> 00:01:57.390 align:middle line:84% and some huge and particular as hope. 00:01:57.390 --> 00:02:01.350 align:middle line:84% If you had heard her chanting as she ironed 00:02:01.350 --> 00:02:09.690 align:middle line:84% you would understand form, and line, and discipline, and order, 00:02:09.690 --> 00:02:12.739 align:middle line:90% and America. 00:02:12.739 --> 00:02:22.000 align:middle line:90%