WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.110 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.110 --> 00:00:03.450 align:middle line:84% This next one is, "The Woman Hanging From The Thirteenth 00:00:03.450 --> 00:00:05.600 align:middle line:90% Floor Window." 00:00:05.600 --> 00:00:10.030 align:middle line:84% And I wrote this poem two or three years 00:00:10.030 --> 00:00:13.450 align:middle line:84% after I'd gone to Chicago and gone to the Chicago Indian 00:00:13.450 --> 00:00:14.740 align:middle line:90% Center. 00:00:14.740 --> 00:00:18.100 align:middle line:84% And it was a late afternoon when I went there in winter. 00:00:18.100 --> 00:00:21.370 align:middle line:84% Winter is no time to be in Chicago, especially 00:00:21.370 --> 00:00:23.740 align:middle line:90% to be Indian in Chicago. 00:00:23.740 --> 00:00:26.860 align:middle line:84% And I remember walking through that Indian Center 00:00:26.860 --> 00:00:29.740 align:middle line:90% and it was pretty depressing. 00:00:29.740 --> 00:00:32.170 align:middle line:84% But what stood out with me and what haunted me, 00:00:32.170 --> 00:00:34.390 align:middle line:84% I suppose, for two or three years 00:00:34.390 --> 00:00:38.430 align:middle line:84% before I wrote the poem was this rocking chair. 00:00:38.430 --> 00:00:41.280 align:middle line:84% It was the only round thing except for the people 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.220 align:middle line:90% in that place. 00:00:43.220 --> 00:00:45.720 align:middle line:84% And so every once in a while, I would see that rocking chair 00:00:45.720 --> 00:00:48.870 align:middle line:84% almost right here in the periphery of my vision. 00:00:48.870 --> 00:00:51.690 align:middle line:84% And at first, there would be different people sitting in it, 00:00:51.690 --> 00:00:57.180 align:middle line:84% an old man rocking his grandson or a couple of little girls. 00:00:57.180 --> 00:01:00.630 align:middle line:84% And finally, this one woman became very insistent. 00:01:00.630 --> 00:01:03.459 align:middle line:90% She was there for a long time. 00:01:03.459 --> 00:01:05.459 align:middle line:84% And finally, one afternoon-- and I don't usually 00:01:05.459 --> 00:01:08.700 align:middle line:84% write poems in the afternoon, but she said, that's all right, 00:01:08.700 --> 00:01:11.760 align:middle line:90% and she made me write this poem. 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:13.800 align:middle line:84% And the odd thing about it is, I usually 00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:16.020 align:middle line:84% do quite a bit of revision, and this poem, 00:01:16.020 --> 00:01:19.020 align:middle line:90% I did hardly any revising on. 00:01:19.020 --> 00:01:23.190 align:middle line:84% And after the poem was first out and people first 00:01:23.190 --> 00:01:27.180 align:middle line:84% saw it, they said, you know, I heard about that story. 00:01:27.180 --> 00:01:29.160 align:middle line:90% Or, I knew that woman. 00:01:29.160 --> 00:01:31.050 align:middle line:90% But it was never the same place. 00:01:31.050 --> 00:01:36.030 align:middle line:84% It was Chicago or New York or some other city. 00:01:36.030 --> 00:01:38.280 align:middle line:84% This is called, "The Woman Hanging From The Thirteenth 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:38.863 align:middle line:90% Floor Window." 00:01:38.863 --> 00:01:41.560 align:middle line:90% 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:45.810 align:middle line:84% She is the woman hanging from the 13th floor window. 00:01:45.810 --> 00:01:49.110 align:middle line:84% Her hands are pressed white against the concrete molding 00:01:49.110 --> 00:01:51.510 align:middle line:90% of the tenement building. 00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:55.080 align:middle line:84% She hangs from the 13th floor window in East Chicago 00:01:55.080 --> 00:01:58.560 align:middle line:84% with a swirl of birds over her head. 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:04.320 align:middle line:84% They could be a halo or a storm of glass waiting to crush her. 00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:07.540 align:middle line:90% She thinks she will be set free. 00:02:07.540 --> 00:02:11.080 align:middle line:84% The woman hanging from the 13th floor window on the East side 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.790 align:middle line:90% of Chicago is not alone. 00:02:13.790 --> 00:02:17.440 align:middle line:84% She is a woman of children, of the baby, Carlos, 00:02:17.440 --> 00:02:21.220 align:middle line:84% and of Margaret, and of Jimmy, who is the oldest. 00:02:21.220 --> 00:02:25.360 align:middle line:84% She is her mother's daughter and her father's son. 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:30.310 align:middle line:84% She is several pieces between the two husbands she has had. 00:02:30.310 --> 00:02:33.040 align:middle line:84% She is all the women of the apartment building 00:02:33.040 --> 00:02:37.780 align:middle line:84% who stand watching her watching themselves. 00:02:37.780 --> 00:02:41.830 align:middle line:84% When she was young, she ate wild rice on scraped down plates 00:02:41.830 --> 00:02:43.750 align:middle line:90% in warm wood rooms. 00:02:43.750 --> 00:02:47.140 align:middle line:84% It was in the farther North and she was the baby then. 00:02:47.140 --> 00:02:49.600 align:middle line:90% They rocked her. 00:02:49.600 --> 00:02:53.650 align:middle line:84% She sees Lake Michigan lapping at the shores of herself. 00:02:53.650 --> 00:02:56.200 align:middle line:84% It is a dizzy hole of water, and the rich 00:02:56.200 --> 00:02:59.830 align:middle line:84% live in tall glass houses at the edge of it. 00:02:59.830 --> 00:03:03.850 align:middle line:84% In some places, Lake Michigan speaks softly. 00:03:03.850 --> 00:03:09.690 align:middle line:84% Here, it just sputters and butts itself against the asphalt. 00:03:09.690 --> 00:03:13.950 align:middle line:84% She sees other buildings just like hers. 00:03:13.950 --> 00:03:17.730 align:middle line:84% She sees other women hanging from many flawed windows, 00:03:17.730 --> 00:03:20.730 align:middle line:84% counting their lives in the palms of their hands 00:03:20.730 --> 00:03:24.060 align:middle line:84% and in the palms of their children's hands. 00:03:24.060 --> 00:03:26.940 align:middle line:84% She is the woman hanging from the 13th floor window 00:03:26.940 --> 00:03:29.160 align:middle line:90% on the Indian side of town. 00:03:29.160 --> 00:03:32.280 align:middle line:84% Her belly is soft from her children's births. 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:36.150 align:middle line:84% Her worn Levis swing down below her waist and then her feet 00:03:36.150 --> 00:03:37.620 align:middle line:90% and then her heart. 00:03:37.620 --> 00:03:40.850 align:middle line:90% She is dangling. 00:03:40.850 --> 00:03:44.630 align:middle line:84% The woman hanging from the 13th floor hears voices, 00:03:44.630 --> 00:03:49.140 align:middle line:84% they come to her in the night when the lights have gone dim. 00:03:49.140 --> 00:03:51.990 align:middle line:84% Sometimes they are little cats mewing and scratching 00:03:51.990 --> 00:03:55.740 align:middle line:84% at the door, sometimes they are her grandmother's voice, 00:03:55.740 --> 00:03:57.810 align:middle line:84% and sometimes they are gigantic men 00:03:57.810 --> 00:04:02.980 align:middle line:84% of light whispering to her to get up, to get up, to get up. 00:04:02.980 --> 00:04:05.290 align:middle line:84% That's when she wants to have another child 00:04:05.290 --> 00:04:07.690 align:middle line:84% to hold on to in the night, to be 00:04:07.690 --> 00:04:11.980 align:middle line:90% able to fall back into dreams. 00:04:11.980 --> 00:04:14.620 align:middle line:84% And the woman hanging from the 13th floor window 00:04:14.620 --> 00:04:18.519 align:middle line:84% hears other voices, some of them scream out from below 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:23.110 align:middle line:84% for her to jump, they would push her over. 00:04:23.110 --> 00:04:26.140 align:middle line:84% Others cry softly from the sidewalks, 00:04:26.140 --> 00:04:28.660 align:middle line:84% pull their children up like flowers 00:04:28.660 --> 00:04:31.090 align:middle line:90% and gather them into their arms. 00:04:31.090 --> 00:04:35.230 align:middle line:84% They would help her like themselves. 00:04:35.230 --> 00:04:38.500 align:middle line:84% But she is the woman hanging from the 13th floor window 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:43.120 align:middle line:84% and she knows she is hanging by her own fingers, her own skin, 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:47.550 align:middle line:90% her own thread of indecision. 00:04:47.550 --> 00:04:51.900 align:middle line:84% She thinks of Carlos, of Margaret, of Jimmy. 00:04:51.900 --> 00:04:55.530 align:middle line:84% She thinks of her father and of her mother. 00:04:55.530 --> 00:05:00.600 align:middle line:84% She thinks of all the women she has been, of all the men. 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.200 align:middle line:84% She thinks of the color of her skin and of Chicago streets 00:05:04.200 --> 00:05:07.350 align:middle line:90% and of waterfalls and pines. 00:05:07.350 --> 00:05:12.300 align:middle line:84% She thinks of moonlight nights and of cool spring storms. 00:05:12.300 --> 00:05:16.440 align:middle line:84% Her mind chatters like neon and Northside bars. 00:05:16.440 --> 00:05:18.720 align:middle line:84% She thinks of the 4:00 AM lonelinesses 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:20.940 align:middle line:84% that have folded her up like death, 00:05:20.940 --> 00:05:26.040 align:middle line:84% discordant, without logical and beautiful conclusion. 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.530 align:middle line:84% Her teeth break off at the edges. 00:05:28.530 --> 00:05:31.210 align:middle line:90% She would speak. 00:05:31.210 --> 00:05:33.970 align:middle line:84% The woman hangs from the 13th floor window, 00:05:33.970 --> 00:05:37.850 align:middle line:84% crying for the lost beauty of her own life. 00:05:37.850 --> 00:05:42.800 align:middle line:84% She sees the sun falling West over the gray plane of Chicago. 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.940 align:middle line:84% She thinks she remembers listening to her own life break 00:05:45.940 --> 00:05:48.820 align:middle line:84% loose, as she falls from the 13th floor 00:05:48.820 --> 00:05:51.790 align:middle line:84% window on the East side of Chicago, 00:05:51.790 --> 00:05:56.185 align:middle line:84% or as she climbs back up to claim herself again. 00:05:56.185 --> 00:06:00.134 align:middle line:90% 00:06:00.134 --> 00:06:02.110 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:06:02.110 --> 00:06:06.062 align:middle line:90% 00:06:06.062 --> 00:06:09.052 align:middle line:90% Thanks. 00:06:09.052 --> 00:06:11.440 align:middle line:84% And so when I was a kid, I used to read a lot. 00:06:11.440 --> 00:06:12.370 align:middle line:90% I would read anything. 00:06:12.370 --> 00:06:14.650 align:middle line:84% I would steal police detective magazines 00:06:14.650 --> 00:06:16.540 align:middle line:84% from under my stepfather's mattress, 00:06:16.540 --> 00:06:21.160 align:middle line:84% under his bed, and short story collections. 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:22.960 align:middle line:84% I didn't have any kind of discrimination. 00:06:22.960 --> 00:06:25.690 align:middle line:84% And there was one story that I loved in which-- 00:06:25.690 --> 00:06:27.010 align:middle line:90% it drove me crazy. 00:06:27.010 --> 00:06:30.310 align:middle line:84% It bothered me for weeks because the author left you there 00:06:30.310 --> 00:06:33.190 align:middle line:84% in an arena with this guy who had to choose 00:06:33.190 --> 00:06:35.710 align:middle line:90% between a beautiful woman-- 00:06:35.710 --> 00:06:38.800 align:middle line:90% they were behind these doors. 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:40.660 align:middle line:84% Behind one door, was a beautiful woman, 00:06:40.660 --> 00:06:42.610 align:middle line:84% and behind the other was a hungry tiger. 00:06:42.610 --> 00:06:44.395 align:middle line:90% And that just drove me crazy. 00:06:44.395 --> 00:06:47.140 align:middle line:90% 00:06:47.140 --> 00:06:49.500 align:middle line:84% That's where I got the ending for that. 00:06:49.500 --> 00:06:50.000 align:middle line:90%