WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.332 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:03.332 --> 00:00:09.520 align:middle line:90% 00:00:09.520 --> 00:00:11.140 align:middle line:90% Thank you so much Marcelo. 00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:13.690 align:middle line:84% I feel like you've already sanctified the space, 00:00:13.690 --> 00:00:21.370 align:middle line:84% seriously, in poetry, which is all I ever want. 00:00:21.370 --> 00:00:23.950 align:middle line:84% My name is Farid Matuk, and it's my great honor 00:00:23.950 --> 00:00:28.030 align:middle line:84% to introduce Marwa Helal tonight. 00:00:28.030 --> 00:00:30.670 align:middle line:84% I have been watching videos of talks 00:00:30.670 --> 00:00:33.940 align:middle line:84% by abolitionist scholar Joy James 00:00:33.940 --> 00:00:37.420 align:middle line:84% and she's got me thinking about agape. 00:00:37.420 --> 00:00:42.220 align:middle line:84% It's a word that helps us mark a different kind of love, where 00:00:42.220 --> 00:00:48.130 align:middle line:84% "eros" is romantic, where "filial" is sisterly, "agape" 00:00:48.130 --> 00:00:51.190 align:middle line:90% is supposed to be transcendent. 00:00:51.190 --> 00:00:55.060 align:middle line:84% Agape, we are told, is realizing God's sacrifice 00:00:55.060 --> 00:00:56.530 align:middle line:90% of a child for the world. 00:00:56.530 --> 00:01:00.220 align:middle line:84% And agape is realized in that child's faithful answer 00:01:00.220 --> 00:01:03.230 align:middle line:90% to the sacrificial call. 00:01:03.230 --> 00:01:06.350 align:middle line:84% It's a confounding story, Christianity, 00:01:06.350 --> 00:01:10.940 align:middle line:84% which is maybe why it engenders so many misreadings. 00:01:10.940 --> 00:01:14.840 align:middle line:84% Its mistaken premise is a singular God, 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.770 align:middle line:84% and its pathos is misplaced in the preciousness of a singular 00:01:18.770 --> 00:01:20.470 align:middle line:90% son. 00:01:20.470 --> 00:01:22.120 align:middle line:84% The preciousness of a singular son 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:25.270 align:middle line:84% is a given to a patriarchy or the power 00:01:25.270 --> 00:01:28.600 align:middle line:84% to engender and hoard property through generations 00:01:28.600 --> 00:01:31.270 align:middle line:84% is situated in a collaboration between the penis 00:01:31.270 --> 00:01:36.040 align:middle line:84% and the family name between the phallus and the signature 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:38.350 align:middle line:84% and where the state reveals its purpose not 00:01:38.350 --> 00:01:41.470 align:middle line:84% in facilitating liberty but in co-signing 00:01:41.470 --> 00:01:46.060 align:middle line:84% patriarchal accumulation with its violence. 00:01:46.060 --> 00:01:47.950 align:middle line:84% Sometimes the theme is too buried 00:01:47.950 --> 00:01:51.070 align:middle line:90% under the armature of the plot. 00:01:51.070 --> 00:01:53.290 align:middle line:84% Sometimes the culture clings too heavy 00:01:53.290 --> 00:01:55.960 align:middle line:90% on the transcending spirit. 00:01:55.960 --> 00:02:00.450 align:middle line:84% Refusing to atomize the field of existence into self and other, 00:02:00.450 --> 00:02:04.620 align:middle line:84% agape transcends the mortal, singular self. 00:02:04.620 --> 00:02:08.770 align:middle line:84% And agape doesn't convey the lover to a heavenly elsewhere. 00:02:08.770 --> 00:02:11.650 align:middle line:84% Alive or dead, agape returns the lover. 00:02:11.650 --> 00:02:14.480 align:middle line:90% Agape brings the lover back. 00:02:14.480 --> 00:02:20.130 align:middle line:84% As Marwa Helal quotes from Oum Kalthoum song, 00:02:20.130 --> 00:02:26.060 align:middle line:84% "To the one I saw before I saw and to the body before the body 00:02:26.060 --> 00:02:28.460 align:middle line:90% worries." 00:02:28.460 --> 00:02:31.670 align:middle line:84% Joy James finds agape realized in the actions 00:02:31.670 --> 00:02:36.220 align:middle line:84% of anti-imperial rebels disciplining their lives 00:02:36.220 --> 00:02:40.580 align:middle line:84% to a strategy of confrontation with the violence of the state. 00:02:40.580 --> 00:02:43.370 align:middle line:84% These rebels have already transcended singularity 00:02:43.370 --> 00:02:48.440 align:middle line:84% and returned to a love so vast and so raw 00:02:48.440 --> 00:02:52.130 align:middle line:84% that only the ante body can bear it. 00:02:52.130 --> 00:02:55.530 align:middle line:84% That's the title of Marwa's new book, 00:02:55.530 --> 00:02:59.700 align:middle line:84% the portal we've come here to approach, the crochet hook 00:02:59.700 --> 00:03:03.430 align:middle line:84% onto which we can hope to be wound. 00:03:03.430 --> 00:03:09.250 align:middle line:90% Ante, A-N-T-E, as in before. 00:03:09.250 --> 00:03:12.610 align:middle line:84% The body before it was promoted only 00:03:12.610 --> 00:03:14.380 align:middle line:84% after much professional development 00:03:14.380 --> 00:03:17.980 align:middle line:90% to the rank of a singular self. 00:03:17.980 --> 00:03:21.070 align:middle line:84% The body before it was awarded only 00:03:21.070 --> 00:03:23.680 align:middle line:84% after sifting through unprecedented numbers 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.230 align:middle line:84% of worthy candidates with the honor 00:03:26.230 --> 00:03:29.680 align:middle line:90% of everyday American loneliness. 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.690 align:middle line:84% If the rebel refuses these honors, 00:03:31.690 --> 00:03:33.760 align:middle line:84% the state can try to absent the rebel, 00:03:33.760 --> 00:03:37.780 align:middle line:84% can try to pluck them out of the vast ante-body of the people 00:03:37.780 --> 00:03:41.730 align:middle line:84% and isolate them in a clandestine prison. 00:03:41.730 --> 00:03:45.160 align:middle line:84% But Joy James says, "It's already too late. 00:03:45.160 --> 00:03:47.100 align:middle line:90% The sacrifice has been made. 00:03:47.100 --> 00:03:48.930 align:middle line:90% The example has been set. 00:03:48.930 --> 00:03:52.170 align:middle line:84% The fact of transcendent love for the collective 00:03:52.170 --> 00:03:55.260 align:middle line:90% is already understood." 00:03:55.260 --> 00:03:57.440 align:middle line:84% So this isn't a sermon or a lecture. 00:03:57.440 --> 00:03:59.570 align:middle line:90% It's an introduction. 00:03:59.570 --> 00:04:02.900 align:middle line:84% But am I to read you a list of accolades, 00:04:02.900 --> 00:04:07.090 align:middle line:84% are we that committed to the ritual of distinction? 00:04:07.090 --> 00:04:10.960 align:middle line:84% Analogous to the state, the foundations and award 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.200 align:middle line:84% granting bodies, the poetry academies and the poetry 00:04:14.200 --> 00:04:18.430 align:middle line:84% societies can try to honor the poet into a prison 00:04:18.430 --> 00:04:21.339 align:middle line:90% house of singular achievement. 00:04:21.339 --> 00:04:24.580 align:middle line:84% But the poet, especially this poet, 00:04:24.580 --> 00:04:27.490 align:middle line:84% who has reversed the very waters of English 00:04:27.490 --> 00:04:31.990 align:middle line:84% and made them run from right to left, this poet who 00:04:31.990 --> 00:04:36.310 align:middle line:84% knows enough to say give Caesar back what belongs to Caesar, 00:04:36.310 --> 00:04:43.060 align:middle line:84% this poet did not come to play at being distinguished. 00:04:43.060 --> 00:04:46.870 align:middle line:84% Marwa did not come to be plucked from the collective field 00:04:46.870 --> 00:04:51.190 align:middle line:84% where poetry is a technology to braid body and word, self 00:04:51.190 --> 00:04:55.090 align:middle line:84% and other, music and meaning, present and past 00:04:55.090 --> 00:04:59.020 align:middle line:84% at the double edge of body and breath. 00:04:59.020 --> 00:05:03.270 align:middle line:84% We do not introduce the poet, we make way for poetry 00:05:03.270 --> 00:05:06.710 align:middle line:84% so that we can join in its braiding. 00:05:06.710 --> 00:05:08.980 align:middle line:90% When Marwa writes, "who real? 00:05:08.980 --> 00:05:14.360 align:middle line:84% Who free?' they are not distinguishing. 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.240 align:middle line:84% They are not threshing the wheat from the chaff, 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.030 align:middle line:90% the chosen from the unchosen. 00:05:20.030 --> 00:05:23.300 align:middle line:90% That's trifling religious shit. 00:05:23.300 --> 00:05:27.110 align:middle line:90% That's trifling empire shit. 00:05:27.110 --> 00:05:29.840 align:middle line:84% Return to Caesar what is Caesar's, 00:05:29.840 --> 00:05:33.260 align:middle line:90% but return the poet to poetry. 00:05:33.260 --> 00:05:34.950 align:middle line:90% When Marwa writes "Who real? 00:05:34.950 --> 00:05:37.520 align:middle line:90% Who free?" 00:05:37.520 --> 00:05:41.390 align:middle line:84% it's the voice of agape that speaks its loving invitation 00:05:41.390 --> 00:05:43.230 align:middle line:90% and call. 00:05:43.230 --> 00:05:45.870 align:middle line:90% How are we going to answer? 00:05:45.870 --> 00:05:48.560 align:middle line:90% Please welcome Marwa Helal. 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.000 align:middle line:90%