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I'd like to do
just a couple more.

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I would say I have five
grandchildren from 23 to one.

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Oh, no, 25.

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The eldest is 25.

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And I can't get over the
I have a grandchild 25.

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I mean I couldn't get over
when I had a child 25.

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I had six children in
six-and-a-half years, and yes,

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I know about the pill.

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I once lived next door to the
president of Planned Parenthood

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of Maryland.

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He hated me.

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He hated to see me
walk out of my door.

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I once went to
Planned Parenthood

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for some kind of thing, and they
said, "Oh, but Mrs. Clifton--

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I had taken the test.

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You know you're pregnant."

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And I cried.

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Once when I had my baby, who
was the person who gave me

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my transplanted kidney,
and she was the one

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I tried so hard to get rid of.

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She wasn't going anywhere.

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She still like that.

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I promised her I would
not fall in Tucson,

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and by George, I have not.

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Anyway, I come from
interesting people,

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and I am part of interesting
people among my tribe.

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This is called "Slave Ships".

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I was saying to Frances I
think that one of my pet peeves

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is people who think that
Africa is a country.

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I have a friend who is a poet
who got very upset because I

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asked her if she
had won a prize,

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and I asked her how head
the prize affected her?

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What had she done?

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She said, "Oh, Lucille, I
visited so many countries:

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France, Germany, Spain, Africa."

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I like to help people.

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I believe in justice.

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I believe we all know
the same kind of things.

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And so I said, "Oh,
but so and so, Africa

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is a continent, not a country.

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It's a place that has
lots of countries on it."

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And she was angry with
me for saying that.

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She thought I meant
something I didn't mean.

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A lot of Black people
don't know that.

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She hasn't spoken to me since,
but I expect I think she will.

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Anyway, I was reading
about slave ships,

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and we didn't book
passage or anything.

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Some guy put us on
there and there we were.

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And the names of
the slave ships--

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I am a sucker for
names, and I wanted

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to hear about the names
of slave ships, anyway.

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Floated like spoons
into the belly of Jesus

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where we lay for weeks,
for months in the sweat

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and stink of our own breathing.

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Jesus, why do you
not protect us?

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Chained to the heart of
the angel where the prayers

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we never tell and hot and
red is our bloody ankles.

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Jesus, angel, can these be men
who vomit us out from ships

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called Jesus, angel, grace of
God onto a heathen country?

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Jesus, angel, ever again
can this tongue speak?

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Can these bones walk?

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Grace of God, can this sin live?

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