WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.160 align:middle line:90% 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:05.878 align:middle line:84% It's a real pleasure to be here tonight. 00:00:05.878 --> 00:00:07.670 align:middle line:84% And I just want to thank Literacy Connects. 00:00:07.670 --> 00:00:11.270 align:middle line:84% Everything you folks do is just amazing work in the community, 00:00:11.270 --> 00:00:13.970 align:middle line:84% and Tyler for just setting up an event like this. 00:00:13.970 --> 00:00:17.360 align:middle line:84% And the beautiful Poetry Center, it's just such a nice place 00:00:17.360 --> 00:00:19.910 align:middle line:84% to kind of spend an open evening and get a chance 00:00:19.910 --> 00:00:24.450 align:middle line:84% to really hear about some words that kind of are exciting. 00:00:24.450 --> 00:00:29.660 align:middle line:84% So it's my job to introduce my fabulous colleague, Paul. 00:00:29.660 --> 00:00:32.870 align:middle line:84% And I felt like I should do it a little differently than, say, 00:00:32.870 --> 00:00:35.510 align:middle line:84% I would do it in a more academic setting. 00:00:35.510 --> 00:00:38.570 align:middle line:84% And I thought-- I was thinking about a well, kind 00:00:38.570 --> 00:00:40.220 align:middle line:84% of an anecdote about something that 00:00:40.220 --> 00:00:42.770 align:middle line:84% happened to me many years ago that was 00:00:42.770 --> 00:00:44.900 align:middle line:90% brought to mind by this event. 00:00:44.900 --> 00:00:49.550 align:middle line:84% When I was in grad school, I had a good friend named Josie, 00:00:49.550 --> 00:00:52.950 align:middle line:84% Josie SaldaƱa, who was one of the brightest, 00:00:52.950 --> 00:00:56.870 align:middle line:84% most kind of capacious thinkers that I knew. 00:00:56.870 --> 00:01:00.140 align:middle line:84% Just incredibly sort of careful reasoner. 00:01:00.140 --> 00:01:03.800 align:middle line:84% And one evening a bunch of us made plans 00:01:03.800 --> 00:01:05.120 align:middle line:90% to watch a movie together. 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:07.730 align:middle line:84% We didn't really have anything definite in mind. 00:01:07.730 --> 00:01:10.700 align:middle line:84% And lo and behold, what does Josie bring over to my house, 00:01:10.700 --> 00:01:14.120 align:middle line:84% but a copy of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.340 align:middle line:84% And I was like, this isn't Josie. 00:01:16.340 --> 00:01:19.340 align:middle line:84% Josie watches these kinds of horror movies? 00:01:19.340 --> 00:01:22.100 align:middle line:84% She's such a careful thinker, she's such a rationalist. 00:01:22.100 --> 00:01:24.170 align:middle line:84% But no, that was what she wanted to watch. 00:01:24.170 --> 00:01:27.170 align:middle line:84% That was what she loved, and we sat down. 00:01:27.170 --> 00:01:33.380 align:middle line:84% And Josie sat on the floor and we started watching the movie. 00:01:33.380 --> 00:01:36.830 align:middle line:84% And as the dramatic tension in that movie built, 00:01:36.830 --> 00:01:39.870 align:middle line:84% Josie kind of began to sort of rock and I was like, 00:01:39.870 --> 00:01:40.670 align:middle line:90% what is going on? 00:01:40.670 --> 00:01:44.870 align:middle line:84% And the scarier the movie got, the harder 00:01:44.870 --> 00:01:47.910 align:middle line:84% she rocked, back and forth, 30 degrees, 00:01:47.910 --> 00:01:50.270 align:middle line:90% 45 degrees, 60 degrees. 00:01:50.270 --> 00:01:54.590 align:middle line:84% So for years later, we would refer to the Josie meter 00:01:54.590 --> 00:01:58.850 align:middle line:84% as a way of measuring the scariness of a movie. 00:01:58.850 --> 00:02:01.130 align:middle line:84% And I never really understood why 00:02:01.130 --> 00:02:05.780 align:middle line:84% someone as rational as her would be so emotionally invested 00:02:05.780 --> 00:02:09.740 align:middle line:84% in terrorizing herself, but as it turned out 00:02:09.740 --> 00:02:14.600 align:middle line:84% my colleague, Paul, is better at explaining that than anyone I 00:02:14.600 --> 00:02:16.130 align:middle line:90% know. 00:02:16.130 --> 00:02:19.580 align:middle line:84% He's a specialist in 19th century American literature. 00:02:19.580 --> 00:02:21.620 align:middle line:84% He got his degree at UC Berkeley. 00:02:21.620 --> 00:02:24.350 align:middle line:84% And he's in particular a specialist 00:02:24.350 --> 00:02:27.020 align:middle line:84% of the work of that grand American creep-artist 00:02:27.020 --> 00:02:30.560 align:middle line:84% that we're all so obsessed with this year, Edgar Allan Poe. 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:33.180 align:middle line:84% He's published widely in the field. 00:02:33.180 --> 00:02:37.310 align:middle line:84% But I just wanted to mention that his book has just come out 00:02:37.310 --> 00:02:41.000 align:middle line:84% this summer, American Terror: The Feeling of Thinking 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.780 align:middle line:84% in Edwards, Poe, and Melville from Stanford Press. 00:02:44.780 --> 00:02:49.220 align:middle line:84% And in some sense, I would say that what Paul does in that 00:02:49.220 --> 00:02:51.920 align:middle line:84% book is he asks the same question of America, 00:02:51.920 --> 00:02:54.830 align:middle line:84% American literature and culture, that I was wondering about 00:02:54.830 --> 00:02:56.780 align:middle line:90% Josie all those years. 00:02:56.780 --> 00:02:59.810 align:middle line:84% Why does a country that claims to be based 00:02:59.810 --> 00:03:04.850 align:middle line:84% on rational enlightenment ideals and to be 00:03:04.850 --> 00:03:08.330 align:middle line:84% sort of precise in its thought in every way 00:03:08.330 --> 00:03:11.870 align:middle line:84% have a literature that has so much darkness and so much 00:03:11.870 --> 00:03:12.590 align:middle line:90% terror? 00:03:12.590 --> 00:03:14.840 align:middle line:84% So what is it about Americans that 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.480 align:middle line:84% makes them want to be scared and what 00:03:17.480 --> 00:03:19.550 align:middle line:84% is this feeling, this strange feeling we 00:03:19.550 --> 00:03:22.040 align:middle line:84% have about our own thoughts that is so gloomy? 00:03:22.040 --> 00:03:26.210 align:middle line:84% Does this date back to some Puritan fear of God? 00:03:26.210 --> 00:03:28.490 align:middle line:84% Does it just have to do with some kind of love 00:03:28.490 --> 00:03:29.990 align:middle line:90% of the Gothic tradition? 00:03:29.990 --> 00:03:32.960 align:middle line:90% And what Paul's book says is no. 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:35.720 align:middle line:84% Its brilliance is in a sense to suggest that there's 00:03:35.720 --> 00:03:40.010 align:middle line:84% a kind of coldness in American reason, a sort of feeling 00:03:40.010 --> 00:03:43.370 align:middle line:84% that's associated with rational thought itself 00:03:43.370 --> 00:03:44.713 align:middle line:90% that's distressing. 00:03:44.713 --> 00:03:46.130 align:middle line:84% That there's something distressing 00:03:46.130 --> 00:03:48.260 align:middle line:90% about the scientific mind. 00:03:48.260 --> 00:03:53.060 align:middle line:84% There's a kind of a level of understanding 00:03:53.060 --> 00:03:56.480 align:middle line:84% that doubles back to infect our sense of reason 00:03:56.480 --> 00:03:58.850 align:middle line:84% with this kind of low grade terror. 00:03:58.850 --> 00:04:01.670 align:middle line:84% So Paul's been doing a lot of work 00:04:01.670 --> 00:04:05.120 align:middle line:84% since then, where he's in some ways I think, 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.190 align:middle line:84% expanding in entirely new directions, 00:04:07.190 --> 00:04:11.420 align:middle line:84% thinking about the relevance of science and cosmology 00:04:11.420 --> 00:04:14.120 align:middle line:84% in 19th century American literature. 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.880 align:middle line:84% He thinks about Poe, I think, from the perspective 00:04:16.880 --> 00:04:18.980 align:middle line:84% of what he calls astronomical aesthetics, 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:22.160 align:middle line:84% or the sublime scale of outer space. 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.520 align:middle line:84% But you know outer space is kind of creepy too. 00:04:25.520 --> 00:04:28.730 align:middle line:84% And I think that there's a way that there's 00:04:28.730 --> 00:04:31.880 align:middle line:84% a hanging on to concerns with terror 00:04:31.880 --> 00:04:35.030 align:middle line:84% that you really can't leave behind entirely 00:04:35.030 --> 00:04:37.430 align:middle line:84% when you're dealing with the master of American darkness, 00:04:37.430 --> 00:04:39.080 align:middle line:90% when you're dealing with Poe. 00:04:39.080 --> 00:04:43.400 align:middle line:84% So with that thought, because there are many directions to go 00:04:43.400 --> 00:04:46.730 align:middle line:84% and it's fun to think about Poe together this evening 00:04:46.730 --> 00:04:50.510 align:middle line:84% with Paul, but you might head home later and have 00:04:50.510 --> 00:04:52.910 align:middle line:84% a moment of panic when you open your front door 00:04:52.910 --> 00:04:55.130 align:middle line:90% and it's a little dark. 00:04:55.130 --> 00:04:59.330 align:middle line:84% And so with that in mind, let me just welcome and thank 00:04:59.330 --> 00:05:02.540 align:middle line:84% someone who has so much to say about these kinds of phenomena, 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:04.040 align:middle line:90% Paul Hurh. 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:05.890 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:05:05.890 --> 00:05:10.000 align:middle line:90%