WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.520 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:04.130 align:middle line:84% I want to thank the Poetry Center so much, 00:00:04.130 --> 00:00:07.760 align:middle line:84% and Tyler, and Hannah, and Julie, 00:00:07.760 --> 00:00:11.390 align:middle line:84% and Cybele and everyone who made me feel welcome this afternoon, 00:00:11.390 --> 00:00:12.980 align:middle line:90% and the great faculty-- 00:00:12.980 --> 00:00:15.290 align:middle line:90% amazing faculty that you have. 00:00:15.290 --> 00:00:19.370 align:middle line:90% Really cool poets. 00:00:19.370 --> 00:00:26.210 align:middle line:84% So this book began with a single moment of weird insight. 00:00:26.210 --> 00:00:28.970 align:middle line:90% I was between water and fire. 00:00:28.970 --> 00:00:33.480 align:middle line:84% And I was thinking what on earth could I 00:00:33.480 --> 00:00:37.500 align:middle line:84% bring to the idea of fire that poets haven't already brought? 00:00:37.500 --> 00:00:40.200 align:middle line:84% And Bob and I were driving down the coast 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.440 align:middle line:84% and it was exactly this time of year. 00:00:43.440 --> 00:00:48.400 align:middle line:84% And we looked out at a field and there were 00:00:48.400 --> 00:00:51.910 align:middle line:84% lots of pumpkins, just pumpkins and gourds. 00:00:51.910 --> 00:00:56.230 align:middle line:90% And I thought about-- 00:00:56.230 --> 00:00:59.560 align:middle line:90% I had a flash of thinking. 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:04.190 align:middle line:84% Those pumpkins have-- they don't need me at all. 00:01:04.190 --> 00:01:09.700 align:middle line:84% They have a separate existence and they have no consciousness. 00:01:09.700 --> 00:01:11.680 align:middle line:84% They're a different kind of life and they 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.430 align:middle line:84% have all these eyes that are lined up inside their bodies. 00:01:15.430 --> 00:01:18.530 align:middle line:84% And it gave me such an immense feeling of happiness. 00:01:18.530 --> 00:01:22.780 align:middle line:84% I just felt completely relieved about being on earth. 00:01:22.780 --> 00:01:25.870 align:middle line:84% And it sort of-- this whole book bloomed inside 00:01:25.870 --> 00:01:29.260 align:middle line:84% of me thinking about non-human nature trying 00:01:29.260 --> 00:01:31.730 align:middle line:90% to be with human nature. 00:01:31.730 --> 00:01:33.670 align:middle line:84% So this is the poem that came out of it. 00:01:33.670 --> 00:01:37.060 align:middle line:84% And "Veronica's Veil" refers to-- if you had a Catholic 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:39.910 align:middle line:84% education, you know this-- but it refers-- 00:01:39.910 --> 00:01:43.180 align:middle line:84% Veronica held her veil up to Jesus' face 00:01:43.180 --> 00:01:47.470 align:middle line:90% and the face left an imprint. 00:01:47.470 --> 00:01:48.970 align:middle line:84% But for some reason they've never 00:01:48.970 --> 00:01:52.390 align:middle line:84% been able to figure out where the veil is 00:01:52.390 --> 00:01:55.660 align:middle line:90% and so it really doesn't exist. 00:01:55.660 --> 00:01:58.870 align:middle line:84% "To spirits of fire after harvest. 00:01:58.870 --> 00:02:02.380 align:middle line:84% Between earth and its noun I felt a fire. 00:02:02.380 --> 00:02:04.570 align:middle line:90% What does it mean by I, Missus. 00:02:04.570 --> 00:02:07.840 align:middle line:84% It means, and I quote, 'one of the vowels in the brain 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.699 align:middle line:90% and some of the you's.' 00:02:09.699 --> 00:02:14.140 align:middle line:84% We were interested in the type of thing humans can't know, 00:02:14.140 --> 00:02:17.560 align:middle line:84% interested in kinds of think animals think-- 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:19.480 align:middle line:90% a rabbit or a skink. 00:02:19.480 --> 00:02:23.800 align:middle line:84% You Mrs. Skiltonianus when autumn brings a grammar. 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.220 align:middle line:84% Wasp circle the dry stalks and you 00:02:27.220 --> 00:02:31.150 align:middle line:84% can totally see through amber ankles dangling in dazzle 00:02:31.150 --> 00:02:35.030 align:middle line:84% under our lord, the sun of literature. 00:02:35.030 --> 00:02:40.070 align:middle line:84% Between noon and its noun, there were ridged and golden runes 00:02:40.070 --> 00:02:44.030 align:middle line:84% on pumpkins, bluish gourds in the fields. 00:02:44.030 --> 00:02:47.030 align:middle line:84% Their white eyes lined up inside. 00:02:47.030 --> 00:02:50.690 align:middle line:84% Wait a sec, please don't nail the door shut. 00:02:50.690 --> 00:02:53.000 align:middle line:84% The air is friendly and non-existent 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.520 align:middle line:90% as Veronica's veil. 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:00.590 align:middle line:84% Earth, don't torment your fool, your ambassador clown. 00:03:00.590 --> 00:03:05.930 align:middle line:84% Bring the x of oxygen and sex, a fox running sideways 00:03:05.930 --> 00:03:08.320 align:middle line:90% through present noon." 00:03:08.320 --> 00:03:09.000 align:middle line:90%