WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.040 align:middle line:84% There does seem to be, in recent years, a re-emergence 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:06.960 align:middle line:90% of interest in prose poem. 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:09.600 align:middle line:84% There are several new prose poem magazines out there, 00:00:09.600 --> 00:00:13.650 align:middle line:84% and I see prose poems now in all kinds of magazines 00:00:13.650 --> 00:00:17.250 align:middle line:84% where I didn't see them for a while, sort 00:00:17.250 --> 00:00:21.810 align:middle line:84% of the second moment for the prose poem in my life. 00:00:21.810 --> 00:00:27.143 align:middle line:84% In the '70s, Russell Edson and WS Merwin, 00:00:27.143 --> 00:00:28.560 align:middle line:84% and lots of the poets that we know 00:00:28.560 --> 00:00:31.830 align:middle line:84% from the period we're writing whole books of prose poems 00:00:31.830 --> 00:00:34.680 align:middle line:84% and bringing different influences in, 00:00:34.680 --> 00:00:37.790 align:middle line:84% surrealist influences, to the poetry. 00:00:37.790 --> 00:00:40.290 align:middle line:84% I think what's happening now is a little different, a little 00:00:40.290 --> 00:00:42.100 align:middle line:84% more meditative, and I think the essay 00:00:42.100 --> 00:00:47.030 align:middle line:84% is beginning to impinge on the prose poem more than a fable. 00:00:47.030 --> 00:00:48.780 align:middle line:84% But something else is happening right now, 00:00:48.780 --> 00:00:50.700 align:middle line:84% or has been happening for a while, 00:00:50.700 --> 00:00:57.270 align:middle line:84% there are writers and editors talking about the lyric essay 00:00:57.270 --> 00:01:01.110 align:middle line:84% and exactly where the prose poem leaves off 00:01:01.110 --> 00:01:03.480 align:middle line:84% and the lyrics essay begins, I don't know. 00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:06.475 align:middle line:84% When I think I've written some lyric essays that I think 00:01:06.475 --> 00:01:08.100 align:middle line:84% are not prose poems, I think in the end 00:01:08.100 --> 00:01:10.650 align:middle line:84% it's the writer and the reader who make 00:01:10.650 --> 00:01:12.780 align:middle line:90% those decisions separately. 00:01:12.780 --> 00:01:14.100 align:middle line:90% Doesn't matter. 00:01:14.100 --> 00:01:17.340 align:middle line:84% But I'm going to read what I think of as a literary essay 00:01:17.340 --> 00:01:19.500 align:middle line:90% from Taboo. 00:01:19.500 --> 00:01:22.530 align:middle line:84% One section of the book is a series 00:01:22.530 --> 00:01:26.780 align:middle line:84% of these small, dissociative essays. 00:01:26.780 --> 00:01:30.187 align:middle line:90% 00:01:30.187 --> 00:01:31.895 align:middle line:84% You won't find a thesis at the end 00:01:31.895 --> 00:01:34.372 align:middle line:90% of the first paragraph. 00:01:34.372 --> 00:01:35.205 align:middle line:90% It's called "Chaos". 00:01:35.205 --> 00:01:38.250 align:middle line:90% 00:01:38.250 --> 00:01:39.870 align:middle line:84% "They were once the flesh and bone 00:01:39.870 --> 00:01:43.320 align:middle line:90% of him, our beloved friend. 00:01:43.320 --> 00:01:47.940 align:middle line:84% Of course, the flesh and bones were not good, even when alive. 00:01:47.940 --> 00:01:51.300 align:middle line:84% I rubbed the ashes, gritty white and gray granules 00:01:51.300 --> 00:01:53.340 align:middle line:90% firmly between my fingers. 00:01:53.340 --> 00:01:56.550 align:middle line:90% Their edges could draw blood. 00:01:56.550 --> 00:01:59.010 align:middle line:84% I leaned to say goodbye, said goodbye, 00:01:59.010 --> 00:02:01.540 align:middle line:84% kissed the lips I kissed so many times, 00:02:01.540 --> 00:02:04.650 align:middle line:84% especially the last six days when friends and family sat 00:02:04.650 --> 00:02:07.410 align:middle line:84% around the clock talking and holding his hands, 00:02:07.410 --> 00:02:10.120 align:middle line:90% massaging his limbs. 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.180 align:middle line:84% His eyes grew larger as he diminished, 00:02:12.180 --> 00:02:15.990 align:middle line:84% the skin retracting, his gray hair and beard taking 00:02:15.990 --> 00:02:17.580 align:middle line:90% on prominence. 00:02:17.580 --> 00:02:20.970 align:middle line:84% I thought his face, with features model simplified, 00:02:20.970 --> 00:02:26.250 align:middle line:84% the perfect form like the face of Peter in frescoes by Giotto. 00:02:26.250 --> 00:02:28.535 align:middle line:84% I felt that inner distancing with such a thought. 00:02:28.535 --> 00:02:31.050 align:middle line:90% I told no one. 00:02:31.050 --> 00:02:34.440 align:middle line:84% But once he was dead, Gary and I got the call just before 11:00 00:02:34.440 --> 00:02:37.620 align:middle line:84% in the morning and reached his bed in 20 minutes. 00:02:37.620 --> 00:02:41.010 align:middle line:84% There was no presence in that flesh, just some powerful sense 00:02:41.010 --> 00:02:45.840 align:middle line:84% he was nearby, and so I spoke my final words to the flesh, held 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.570 align:middle line:84% his hand, kissed his lips, his forehead, 00:02:48.570 --> 00:02:50.790 align:middle line:84% but felt my sentences taking up elsewhere 00:02:50.790 --> 00:02:54.070 align:middle line:90% around the body in the air. 00:02:54.070 --> 00:02:56.750 align:middle line:84% So all the fuss of how to dispose of the ashes, all 00:02:56.750 --> 00:02:58.590 align:middle line:90% the ceremony we created. 00:02:58.590 --> 00:03:01.590 align:middle line:84% Brilliant, flowered wrapping paper cut into squares 00:03:01.590 --> 00:03:04.710 align:middle line:84% and folded into palm sized envelopes, the ashes 00:03:04.710 --> 00:03:08.160 align:middle line:84% in an aluminum bowl laid on the ground on a bright red kitchen 00:03:08.160 --> 00:03:12.090 align:middle line:84% cloth just off the aspen trail up in the grove he loved. 00:03:12.090 --> 00:03:14.190 align:middle line:90% August, the leaves dull gold. 00:03:14.190 --> 00:03:16.350 align:middle line:84% Now the clouds closed in over our heads 00:03:16.350 --> 00:03:18.630 align:middle line:90% above the towering treetops. 00:03:18.630 --> 00:03:21.300 align:middle line:84% The mountaintop, a mile in the air at the Northeast 00:03:21.300 --> 00:03:25.530 align:middle line:84% edge of Tucson up a winding 25 mile road in five cars 00:03:25.530 --> 00:03:27.600 align:middle line:90% with all our dogs. 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:29.970 align:middle line:84% His partner and a dozen of his closest friends 00:03:29.970 --> 00:03:33.540 align:middle line:84% holding hands in a circle taking turns telling stories. 00:03:33.540 --> 00:03:36.600 align:middle line:84% A passing of the bowl and silver serving spoon, 00:03:36.600 --> 00:03:41.110 align:middle line:84% each scooping some of the coarse, tiny, human shards. 00:03:41.110 --> 00:03:43.350 align:middle line:84% The hollow scudding sound as the ashes 00:03:43.350 --> 00:03:46.410 align:middle line:90% slid into the flowery envelopes. 00:03:46.410 --> 00:03:48.120 align:middle line:84% The human circle breaking finally, 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:51.210 align:middle line:84% like slow atoms of a single molecule 00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:54.060 align:middle line:84% spreading randomly into the woods, 00:03:54.060 --> 00:03:56.430 align:middle line:84% finding places to scatter the ashes, 00:03:56.430 --> 00:04:00.510 align:middle line:84% and then one-by-one returning to the circle, the molecules, 00:04:00.510 --> 00:04:05.370 align:middle line:84% atoms rejoining in a new configuration. 00:04:05.370 --> 00:04:08.760 align:middle line:84% One friend tucked her envelope of ashes into her purse, 00:04:08.760 --> 00:04:12.090 align:middle line:84% a portion was set aside for his partner to bury in their garden 00:04:12.090 --> 00:04:14.460 align:middle line:84% before she held out for family in New York 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:17.970 align:middle line:84% where he was born, a minor fragmentation, 00:04:17.970 --> 00:04:20.910 align:middle line:84% a temporary holding of slow concentrations 00:04:20.910 --> 00:04:25.860 align:middle line:84% to be dispersed elsewhere, which left me oddly unsettled. 00:04:25.860 --> 00:04:29.760 align:middle line:84% I know no concentration endures, human or otherwise. 00:04:29.760 --> 00:04:33.300 align:middle line:84% Things do fall apart, scattered like discarded 00:04:33.300 --> 00:04:34.920 align:middle line:90% domestic objects. 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.830 align:middle line:84% A one port stainless steel pot from a wedding set 00:04:37.830 --> 00:04:41.340 align:middle line:84% in which a wife cooked a portion of her first household meals 00:04:41.340 --> 00:04:44.010 align:middle line:84% becomes one of many gifts when her son sets up 00:04:44.010 --> 00:04:46.140 align:middle line:84% his first apartment then college, 00:04:46.140 --> 00:04:48.720 align:middle line:84% becomes a gift again years later when 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.540 align:middle line:84% the son-- no longer single-- buys with his partner 00:04:51.540 --> 00:04:54.720 align:middle line:84% their first matched cookware, the odds and ends 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.840 align:middle line:84% from their families and thrift store student pasts set off 00:04:57.840 --> 00:05:01.950 align:middle line:84% to a charity's secondhand outlet except the one, the pot that 00:05:01.950 --> 00:05:05.700 align:middle line:84% was his mother's, which he held back save for the day 00:05:05.700 --> 00:05:09.150 align:middle line:84% he could give it to someone else, a new young friend, 00:05:09.150 --> 00:05:13.530 align:middle line:84% a poet who lives on air and spring. 00:05:13.530 --> 00:05:15.510 align:middle line:84% I see the pot when I visit him in the kitchen 00:05:15.510 --> 00:05:17.460 align:middle line:90% of his new apartment. 00:05:17.460 --> 00:05:19.680 align:middle line:84% We're discussing a villanelle by Elizabeth Bishop, 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:23.760 align:middle line:84% which opens "the art of losing is not hard to master". 00:05:23.760 --> 00:05:25.150 align:middle line:90% He lifts the pot from the flame. 00:05:25.150 --> 00:05:28.140 align:middle line:84% He's made a vegetable sauce that needs to cool for dinner later, 00:05:28.140 --> 00:05:32.850 align:middle line:84% and much to my horror plonks it directly into the freezer. 00:05:32.850 --> 00:05:35.070 align:middle line:84% Last week on our back porch at dusk, 00:05:35.070 --> 00:05:37.950 align:middle line:84% this young man blurted a little in his cups from whiskey 00:05:37.950 --> 00:05:41.280 align:middle line:84% and sevens and apropos of what I don't recall. 00:05:41.280 --> 00:05:43.140 align:middle line:90% I read about chaos theory. 00:05:43.140 --> 00:05:45.810 align:middle line:84% It only takes 10 years for the piss you flushed yesterday 00:05:45.810 --> 00:05:47.550 align:middle line:90% to come full circle. 00:05:47.550 --> 00:05:50.820 align:middle line:84% The molecules disperse they spread out all over the world, 00:05:50.820 --> 00:05:52.470 align:middle line:84% then one morning you turn the faucet 00:05:52.470 --> 00:05:54.510 align:middle line:84% and some of those molecules fall right out 00:05:54.510 --> 00:05:57.190 align:middle line:90% in your drinking water. 00:05:57.190 --> 00:05:57.690 align:middle line:90% No. 00:05:57.690 --> 00:05:58.890 align:middle line:90% How is that chaos? 00:05:58.890 --> 00:06:02.310 align:middle line:84% I wanted to protest, also a little in my cups. 00:06:02.310 --> 00:06:04.530 align:middle line:84% He had startled by my sudden motion. 00:06:04.530 --> 00:06:06.390 align:middle line:84% How's that chaos when they return 00:06:06.390 --> 00:06:09.200 align:middle line:90% to us as something else?" 00:06:09.200 --> 00:06:12.000 align:middle line:90%