WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.240 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:04.270 align:middle line:84% Don't try to understand the poem. 00:00:04.270 --> 00:00:08.410 align:middle line:84% There is a kind of death imposed by those who try and understand 00:00:08.410 --> 00:00:10.060 align:middle line:90% it fully. 00:00:10.060 --> 00:00:14.170 align:middle line:84% Even just the understanding impulse includes some desire 00:00:14.170 --> 00:00:18.760 align:middle line:84% to be done, some desire to complete the experience 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:23.020 align:middle line:84% that one might get on to new experiences, new poems. 00:00:23.020 --> 00:00:25.750 align:middle line:84% But there is something inherently indiscreet 00:00:25.750 --> 00:00:27.700 align:middle line:90% about a meaningful poem. 00:00:27.700 --> 00:00:32.259 align:middle line:84% It is in yourself or someone else or the world making 00:00:32.259 --> 00:00:36.250 align:middle line:84% meaning and meaningful things are always in motion. 00:00:36.250 --> 00:00:42.760 align:middle line:84% By the very nature of us, people, finding them that way. 00:00:42.760 --> 00:00:47.020 align:middle line:84% Fire on it like a Dante to his pigeon. 00:00:47.020 --> 00:00:51.460 align:middle line:84% One day disposed of oxygen by flame. 00:00:51.460 --> 00:00:55.780 align:middle line:84% The poem in flux, the reader in flux, 00:00:55.780 --> 00:00:59.860 align:middle line:84% the magnetic relation of poems to each other, 00:00:59.860 --> 00:01:03.460 align:middle line:84% them shifting, tugging, pulling each other 00:01:03.460 --> 00:01:06.940 align:middle line:84% into alignment or relation, and it's less mystical 00:01:06.940 --> 00:01:08.530 align:middle line:90% than it sounds. 00:01:08.530 --> 00:01:13.840 align:middle line:84% If I have a pile small poems, go through it, read it, listen, 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:16.930 align:middle line:84% and it is not the moment of any one thing 00:01:16.930 --> 00:01:21.010 align:middle line:84% but a shared momentum tumbling together. 00:01:21.010 --> 00:01:24.790 align:middle line:84% The relational push and pull as parts of one thing. 00:01:24.790 --> 00:01:26.650 align:middle line:90% No, not really that. 00:01:26.650 --> 00:01:30.370 align:middle line:84% You hear a sound, you hear a sound repeated. 00:01:30.370 --> 00:01:34.390 align:middle line:84% And feeling those things sometimes recognized, 00:01:34.390 --> 00:01:37.690 align:middle line:84% your relation to both is changed. 00:01:37.690 --> 00:01:39.790 align:middle line:90% And there's to each other. 00:01:39.790 --> 00:01:42.640 align:middle line:84% In being recognized, but just in being, 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.200 align:middle line:84% too, you are writing, moving, listening your way through. 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.450 align:middle line:90% It's how the poems get made. 00:01:49.450 --> 00:01:53.590 align:middle line:84% As you bring new poems into their space, 00:01:53.590 --> 00:01:57.160 align:middle line:84% as new poems are there beside them 00:01:57.160 --> 00:02:02.560 align:middle line:84% being read aloud and heard, time, tones of others 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:08.199 align:middle line:84% dragged in and each new relation with each new neighbor poem, 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:12.120 align:middle line:90% causing shifts and changes. 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.000 align:middle line:90%