WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.110 align:middle line:90% 00:00:09.110 --> 00:00:11.030 align:middle line:90% I like to think of it as dream. 00:00:11.030 --> 00:00:13.040 align:middle line:84% I'd like to think of Nathaniel and Marilyn 00:00:13.040 --> 00:00:15.530 align:middle line:84% as being in my dreams, one of those little bit. 00:00:15.530 --> 00:00:18.740 align:middle line:84% Thank you Cybele and the UA Poetry Center. 00:00:18.740 --> 00:00:21.230 align:middle line:84% Thank you to all the board members and participants 00:00:21.230 --> 00:00:25.430 align:middle line:84% of Chax Press and POG and thanks particularly to Cynthia Miller 00:00:25.430 --> 00:00:28.880 align:middle line:84% for her enthusiasm for the work you are about to hear 00:00:28.880 --> 00:00:31.040 align:middle line:84% and her support of these organizations 00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:33.920 align:middle line:84% and these artists and indeed of the arts in Tucson 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:35.750 align:middle line:90% in a big way. 00:00:35.750 --> 00:00:37.910 align:middle line:90% What a treat? 00:00:37.910 --> 00:00:39.800 align:middle line:84% Nathaniel Mackey and Marilyn Crispell, 00:00:39.800 --> 00:00:43.190 align:middle line:84% two artists at the forefront of their respective practices 00:00:43.190 --> 00:00:45.350 align:middle line:84% at the top of their game, so to speak, 00:00:45.350 --> 00:00:48.620 align:middle line:84% two terrifically intelligent, caring, creative, 00:00:48.620 --> 00:00:51.740 align:middle line:84% and articulate people who I'm learning more every day 00:00:51.740 --> 00:00:53.930 align:middle line:90% are also a lot of fun. 00:00:53.930 --> 00:00:58.260 align:middle line:84% Nathaniel Mackey is accomplished in poetry, fiction, 00:00:58.260 --> 00:01:01.680 align:middle line:84% and in the writing of critical prose about literature. 00:01:01.680 --> 00:01:04.129 align:middle line:84% He is an esteemed professor for many years 00:01:04.129 --> 00:01:06.380 align:middle line:84% at the University of California at Santa Cruz 00:01:06.380 --> 00:01:09.500 align:middle line:84% and in the last couple of years at Duke University. 00:01:09.500 --> 00:01:13.130 align:middle line:84% He has graced Tucson before on at least two occasions 00:01:13.130 --> 00:01:15.860 align:middle line:90% for the Tucson Poetry Festival. 00:01:15.860 --> 00:01:20.360 align:middle line:84% Mackey's books of poetry include Nod House, Splay Anthem, 00:01:20.360 --> 00:01:24.920 align:middle line:84% Whatsaid Serif, Song of the Andoumboulou 18 to 20, 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:28.550 align:middle line:84% School of Udhra, Outlandish, Eroding Witness, 00:01:28.550 --> 00:01:33.410 align:middle line:84% Septet for the End of Time, Four for Trane, and Four for Glenn; 00:01:33.410 --> 00:01:35.210 align:middle line:90% many are over here. 00:01:35.210 --> 00:01:38.300 align:middle line:84% He's the author of an ongoing prose fiction 00:01:38.300 --> 00:01:41.840 align:middle line:84% work From a Broken Bottle Traces of Perfume 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:45.420 align:middle line:84% Still Emanate of which four volumes have been published, 00:01:45.420 --> 00:01:49.340 align:middle line:84% which take the form of letters from the musician N 00:01:49.340 --> 00:01:51.590 align:middle line:90% to the angel of dust. 00:01:51.590 --> 00:01:54.590 align:middle line:84% His published critical books, including 00:01:54.590 --> 00:01:58.820 align:middle line:84% Discrepant Engagement: Dissonance, Cross Culturality 00:01:58.820 --> 00:02:02.990 align:middle line:84% and Experimental Writing, and Paracritical Hinge: 00:02:02.990 --> 00:02:06.680 align:middle line:84% Essays, Talks, Notes, Interviews. 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.810 align:middle line:84% And he was co-editor with Art Lange 00:02:08.810 --> 00:02:11.930 align:middle line:84% of the anthology, Moment's Notice: Jazz 00:02:11.930 --> 00:02:14.540 align:middle line:90% in Poetry and Prose. 00:02:14.540 --> 00:02:17.180 align:middle line:84% Two days ago Lisa Cooper Anderson 00:02:17.180 --> 00:02:20.120 align:middle line:84% presented a session on Nathaniel Mackey's work 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:25.010 align:middle line:84% that focused at least in part on a way in which resonance, 00:02:25.010 --> 00:02:29.240 align:middle line:84% a kind of base sounding connects many elements, 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.100 align:middle line:84% but connects them not necessarily 00:02:31.100 --> 00:02:35.660 align:middle line:84% through logical development, but through soundings, echoes, 00:02:35.660 --> 00:02:39.380 align:middle line:90% tangents, metonymy. 00:02:39.380 --> 00:02:44.030 align:middle line:84% In another term one finds rhizomes with meaning flowing, 00:02:44.030 --> 00:02:47.990 align:middle line:84% emerging here and there through the work rather than tree 00:02:47.990 --> 00:02:49.970 align:middle line:84% structures where everything clearly 00:02:49.970 --> 00:02:54.320 align:middle line:84% relates to a single rooted and branching structure. 00:02:54.320 --> 00:02:56.375 align:middle line:84% Yet sometimes I wonder about that. 00:02:56.375 --> 00:03:00.980 align:middle line:84% That is just as the poet Louis Zukofsky's formula for poetry, 00:03:00.980 --> 00:03:03.890 align:middle line:84% lower limit speech upper limit music, 00:03:03.890 --> 00:03:08.630 align:middle line:84% connects speech to music as much as it separates the two, 00:03:08.630 --> 00:03:11.750 align:middle line:84% so elements in Mackey's work connect. 00:03:11.750 --> 00:03:17.010 align:middle line:84% After all, discrepant engagement is still an engagement. 00:03:17.010 --> 00:03:20.090 align:middle line:84% A paracritical hinge still a hinge, 00:03:20.090 --> 00:03:23.090 align:middle line:84% something that may open onto a new world 00:03:23.090 --> 00:03:26.000 align:middle line:84% but which also connects that world to the one we 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:29.210 align:middle line:90% occupy by means of that hinge. 00:03:29.210 --> 00:03:31.370 align:middle line:84% Mackey's work exists at that point 00:03:31.370 --> 00:03:35.720 align:middle line:84% where all is moving apart which is also the point at which one 00:03:35.720 --> 00:03:39.290 align:middle line:84% can see all things held and existing even 00:03:39.290 --> 00:03:42.620 align:middle line:90% if in tenuous ways together. 00:03:42.620 --> 00:03:45.020 align:middle line:84% William Carlos Williams famously wrote 00:03:45.020 --> 00:03:47.540 align:middle line:84% it is difficult to get the news from poems, 00:03:47.540 --> 00:03:50.450 align:middle line:84% yet men die miserably every day for lack 00:03:50.450 --> 00:03:52.400 align:middle line:90% of what is found there. 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.770 align:middle line:84% What is found there in Mackey's poems 00:03:54.770 --> 00:03:59.870 align:middle line:84% is music, meaning, strength, fragility, dignity, courage, 00:03:59.870 --> 00:04:03.020 align:middle line:84% vision, brilliance and more, also 00:04:03.020 --> 00:04:06.290 align:middle line:84% a sense of the ongoing nature of our experience. 00:04:06.290 --> 00:04:11.210 align:middle line:84% And indeed serial works like the Song of the Andoumboulou and Mu 00:04:11.210 --> 00:04:15.770 align:middle line:84% appear in book after book possibly without end. 00:04:15.770 --> 00:04:19.550 align:middle line:84% If you experience as I do the sense of being 00:04:19.550 --> 00:04:23.360 align:middle line:84% alive while in the midst of a poem by Nathaniel Mackey, 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.030 align:middle line:90% you just may not want it to end. 00:04:26.030 --> 00:04:29.050 align:middle line:84% Please help me welcome Nathaniel Mackey. 00:04:29.050 --> 00:04:31.000 align:middle line:90%