WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.990 align:middle line:90% 00:00:00.990 --> 00:00:05.580 align:middle line:84% Quite a number of these things are very recent, not as 00:00:05.580 --> 00:00:08.185 align:middle line:84% recent as that plant from Mexico, 00:00:08.185 --> 00:00:09.810 align:middle line:84% that's pressed against the window, over 00:00:09.810 --> 00:00:14.160 align:middle line:84% there at the firies and snuffies, but recent. 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:17.640 align:middle line:84% I think about it, partly, because I'm 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:21.330 align:middle line:84% modulating from something very recent, a game and a brother, 00:00:21.330 --> 00:00:23.580 align:middle line:90% to something that's old. 00:00:23.580 --> 00:00:25.740 align:middle line:84% And I want to identify-- this time, 00:00:25.740 --> 00:00:28.440 align:middle line:90% I want to identify an editor. 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:30.540 align:middle line:90% His name was Richard Ashman. 00:00:30.540 --> 00:00:33.690 align:middle line:84% I guess maybe I'm speaking mostly 00:00:33.690 --> 00:00:35.910 align:middle line:90% to you young writers here. 00:00:35.910 --> 00:00:38.730 align:middle line:84% They don't make editors like that anymore. 00:00:38.730 --> 00:00:44.490 align:middle line:84% Richard Ashman-- he ran The New Orleans Poetry Journal, 00:00:44.490 --> 00:00:45.570 align:middle line:90% and from way out-- 00:00:45.570 --> 00:00:48.690 align:middle line:84% I was up in Oregon, and I heard about this place. 00:00:48.690 --> 00:00:53.100 align:middle line:84% I sent off some poems, like by airmail, when there was 00:00:53.100 --> 00:00:55.410 align:middle line:90% airmail, and it was different. 00:00:55.410 --> 00:00:58.920 align:middle line:90% Here came a check so fast. 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:03.120 align:middle line:84% I didn't see how he had time to read my poems, right back, 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:04.260 align:middle line:90% and he was like that. 00:01:04.260 --> 00:01:06.330 align:middle line:84% He was very generous, and he would 00:01:06.330 --> 00:01:11.670 align:middle line:84% send back these checks by return mail and put out this magazine. 00:01:11.670 --> 00:01:14.370 align:middle line:84% I have old copies of The New Orleans Poetry Journal 00:01:14.370 --> 00:01:17.760 align:middle line:84% that's got all sorts of people we hear about now, 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:21.570 align:middle line:84% and I guess I never have gone around to ask them, 00:01:21.570 --> 00:01:24.210 align:middle line:84% were you as poor as I was when Richard Ashman used 00:01:24.210 --> 00:01:25.590 align:middle line:90% to send those checks? 00:01:25.590 --> 00:01:28.380 align:middle line:84% I mean people-- as I remember, people 00:01:28.380 --> 00:01:32.580 align:middle line:84% like Galway Kinnell and James Wright, 00:01:32.580 --> 00:01:33.900 align:middle line:90% you know that generation. 00:01:33.900 --> 00:01:35.735 align:middle line:90% It seemed like almost everybody. 00:01:35.735 --> 00:01:37.110 align:middle line:84% I should check around here to see 00:01:37.110 --> 00:01:40.350 align:middle line:84% if there's anyone old enough to hoist the glass as I 00:01:40.350 --> 00:01:42.680 align:middle line:90% do to Richard Ashman. 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:44.203 align:middle line:90%