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I'm going to read--

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just come back to
the first book I

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was reading from which
is Earliest Worlds, which

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I suppose was probably not
even out last time I was here

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but I maybe was
reading poems from it.

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And I think I had just written
the start of the "California"

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poem when I came--

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I think a few months before it
had started that poem, which

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is kind of amazing to me.

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OK.

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"Essay."

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"When I think of
sex a moist fog--"

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and there's a reference to
the Leslie Scalapino in here

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for those of you--

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or to her poems, I should say.

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"When I think of sex, some
people think of seals barking,

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but I think of
shrimp and bleach.

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When I think of sex
with some people,

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I think of cones and rods,
but they think of flywheels.

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When some people
think of sex, they

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think of plastic and
rubber and Frisbees,

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but when I think
of them and sex,

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I think of international
ultimate championships

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and of grass stains
on the knees and flies

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and zippers and X's over
their eyes and they are dead.

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And when I think
of them and sex,

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I think I do not want to
have sex with a dead person

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until I am dead."

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That's-- you see,
poetry is didactic.

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There are things to be learned.

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They had a really hard
time translating that

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into Slovenian because they
don't learn about cones

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and rods in Slovenia.

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So you must learn
about cones and rods.

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