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Can you say something
about your --

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the relationship between
the lyric and a sentence

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because some lyric comes--

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a lot of them actually rely
on fragments and short lines.

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That's true.

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And it seems like the
prose passages in Deepstep

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are just as lyrical
as the others.

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And the others are like you're
saying, often in sentence.

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Right.

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So I'd love to hear you
talk about the relationship

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between the lyric and sentence.

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I don't know that I know.

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I don't know that I have
an articulate view of it

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other than--

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I thought my own
sentences were very wooden

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and that I wanted to see if
I could make them more supple

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and do more things.

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And I knew that the sentence
was capable of doing a lot more

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things than I had done with it.

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So I thought--

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I don't know.

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I know in the book
Just Whistle I used

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a lot of very medical language.

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And somehow, to me,
that seemed very lyric

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just because it was such a
weird specialized language.

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So I just think that there's a
lot more musicality in English

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than we get out of it and
that sonic relations --

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there's just a lot
more timbre in there

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to play with than we think.

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And I think the prose
poem itself can lock up.

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It can lose that.

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But you can work it.

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It didn't-- you don't have to
siphon off all of the lyric

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qualities in it just because
you're working in the block

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of print.

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So if I don't--

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it's an interesting question.

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I don't really have
an adequate answer.

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When you were
reading last night,

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I could tell that the passage
about the babies in the diapers

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and the timothy
was prose, but it

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was one of the most
lyrical passages

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that you had hit so far partly
because of the repetition.

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Repetition, yeah.

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But the cadence of that prose
was absolutely beautifully

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lyric.

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And then to go back to the
line calling after that was it

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was that, the speaking
of the two styles

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there was especially
rich out loud again.

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Maybe part of it is a sense of
phrasing, that phrasing is--

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I mean, almost in this
sense of a musical phrase.

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If you think of that as your
unit instead of the line,

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then you can milk a little
more that lyricism out of it.

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