I was curious about what you said about connecting
the fragments with the prose.
Did the prose end up in the final poem, or--
Um-hum [NODS]
OK.
So you started with these fragments and then expanded.
Yeah, compositionally, this book just really worked for me.
Like these pieces, which are inscrutable unless you're
a court reporter, I asked my mother,
who is a retired court reporter, to transcribe word for word
the prose passages, which she did.
And then the designer used about four of them in the text.
And even though I know it didn't mean anything
to anyone who wasn't a court reporter,
the book was dedicated to two court reporters.
And I knew they could read it.
And also, I just felt like it added another layer.
And this was very much a work that involved layering.
So it was really just a visual, sort of kick, visually.