How does the prison feel about you're writing?
And--
Well, I don't know.
And should your book be very successful
would they expect a thanks from it?
Kickbacks, yeah.
This warden has been accused of it.
Actually, I don't expect there to be
any revenues from this book.
It's-- but if something happens, then we will work something out
in the contract, but Debbie already worked out something
in her contract where she-- when she sells any of the prints.
The prisoner's, first of all are given
a shot, a print of every shot taken on paper,
they're not allowed to have the metal prints.
And she already gives 20% to the prisoner's fund.
And we'll work something out in the contract about that--
that would go to the funds.
And because anything the prisoners
get anything, popcorn machine or anything
it comes out of their fund.
It's the state who, you know --
The state found out they had cable television,
and they cut that off.
You know, anything like that, the state objects to.
But how the prisoners feel about-- the prisoners,
everything is very voluntary about doing it.
No one is required to do it.
Prisoners feel very good about photographs.
They want photographs.
They either want them to circulate
to friends at other prisons or to their family or--
they don't have images of themselves, except mug shots.
And they-- that part is the pleasure.
And there's everyone who is given a description of--
and is told about what the use of it
is, that it's an art book, essentially.
The text, I have no idea how people relate to that.
Oh, you know, what people want is to be exonerated and be
set free.
The text is not going to do that,
but it's certainly going to aim to project people
as whole people, which each and every one of us is.