WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.080 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:03.600 align:middle line:84% How does the prison feel about you're writing? 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:04.140 align:middle line:90% And-- 00:00:04.140 --> 00:00:05.760 align:middle line:90% Well, I don't know. 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:08.010 align:middle line:84% And should your book be very successful 00:00:08.010 --> 00:00:10.100 align:middle line:84% would they expect a thanks from it? 00:00:10.100 --> 00:00:12.320 align:middle line:90% Kickbacks, yeah. 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:14.320 align:middle line:84% This warden has been accused of it. 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:16.970 align:middle line:84% Actually, I don't expect there to be 00:00:16.970 --> 00:00:19.306 align:middle line:90% any revenues from this book. 00:00:19.306 --> 00:00:24.410 align:middle line:84% It's-- but if something happens, then we will work something out 00:00:24.410 --> 00:00:27.920 align:middle line:84% in the contract, but Debbie already worked out something 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.907 align:middle line:84% in her contract where she-- when she sells any of the prints. 00:00:31.907 --> 00:00:33.490 align:middle line:84% The prisoner's, first of all are given 00:00:33.490 --> 00:00:37.370 align:middle line:84% a shot, a print of every shot taken on paper, 00:00:37.370 --> 00:00:39.970 align:middle line:84% they're not allowed to have the metal prints. 00:00:39.970 --> 00:00:44.290 align:middle line:84% And she already gives 20% to the prisoner's fund. 00:00:44.290 --> 00:00:46.930 align:middle line:90% 00:00:46.930 --> 00:00:49.770 align:middle line:84% And we'll work something out in the contract about that-- 00:00:49.770 --> 00:00:51.600 align:middle line:90% that would go to the funds. 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:53.700 align:middle line:84% And because anything the prisoners 00:00:53.700 --> 00:00:56.730 align:middle line:84% get anything, popcorn machine or anything 00:00:56.730 --> 00:00:58.870 align:middle line:90% it comes out of their fund. 00:00:58.870 --> 00:01:00.508 align:middle line:90% It's the state who, you know -- 00:01:00.508 --> 00:01:02.425 align:middle line:84% The state found out they had cable television, 00:01:02.425 --> 00:01:03.740 align:middle line:90% and they cut that off. 00:01:03.740 --> 00:01:07.036 align:middle line:84% You know, anything like that, the state objects to. 00:01:07.036 --> 00:01:12.420 align:middle line:90% 00:01:12.420 --> 00:01:15.840 align:middle line:84% But how the prisoners feel about-- the prisoners, 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:17.850 align:middle line:84% everything is very voluntary about doing it. 00:01:17.850 --> 00:01:19.770 align:middle line:90% No one is required to do it. 00:01:19.770 --> 00:01:22.740 align:middle line:84% Prisoners feel very good about photographs. 00:01:22.740 --> 00:01:24.900 align:middle line:90% They want photographs. 00:01:24.900 --> 00:01:26.430 align:middle line:84% They either want them to circulate 00:01:26.430 --> 00:01:31.020 align:middle line:84% to friends at other prisons or to their family or-- 00:01:31.020 --> 00:01:35.190 align:middle line:84% they don't have images of themselves, except mug shots. 00:01:35.190 --> 00:01:44.240 align:middle line:84% And they-- that part is the pleasure. 00:01:44.240 --> 00:01:49.850 align:middle line:84% And there's everyone who is given a description of-- 00:01:49.850 --> 00:01:51.950 align:middle line:84% and is told about what the use of it 00:01:51.950 --> 00:01:55.530 align:middle line:84% is, that it's an art book, essentially. 00:01:55.530 --> 00:02:01.040 align:middle line:84% The text, I have no idea how people relate to that. 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:04.440 align:middle line:84% Oh, you know, what people want is to be exonerated and be 00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:05.280 align:middle line:90% set free. 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.389 align:middle line:84% The text is not going to do that, 00:02:08.389 --> 00:02:12.670 align:middle line:84% but it's certainly going to aim to project people 00:02:12.670 --> 00:02:18.030 align:middle line:84% as whole people, which each and every one of us is.