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I was just curious
last night when

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you were talking about
Deepstep Come Shining,

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you said, you got the idea from
a photographer or something

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like that and then now it's
like you have this idea for--

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this with the prison.

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Do you tend to only approach
the longer pieces with the ideas

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first?

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Like, how did you or did
you approach the collections

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of your poems the same way?

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No, I haven't done them all
the same way I-- but I mean,

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I'm not idea rich --
have a lot of language,

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but don't have a lot of ideas.

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So as in terms of
collaboration, sometimes, I

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have suggested the project
to my friend Deborah Luster

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and sometimes, she has
suggested the project to me

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and because we're working
in different media,

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we have a lot of autonomy in
how we perceive to interpret

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that, so the basic idea.

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But you had like a theme
before you approach?

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We did, but sometimes,
I don't have

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the theme I only have a title.

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And Tremble, I only had a title.

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So-- an earlier book called
Terrorism I only had a title.

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It's nuts.

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I always want to do it, but I
do -- usually things do I try,

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I have almost always
tried to write the book.

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So I've always been
thinking of the whole thing

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with the same way.

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