WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.374 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:03.374 --> 00:00:13.510 align:middle line:90% 00:00:13.510 --> 00:00:14.115 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:00:14.115 --> 00:00:14.740 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Ben. 00:00:14.740 --> 00:00:16.370 align:middle line:90% Thank you everyone. 00:00:16.370 --> 00:00:17.800 align:middle line:90% This is my Phil Donahue moment. 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:19.270 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:00:19.270 --> 00:00:23.590 align:middle line:84% Ben did agree to answer a few questions. 00:00:23.590 --> 00:00:27.010 align:middle line:84% But I have the microphone here, so patience 00:00:27.010 --> 00:00:29.170 align:middle line:84% while I run to you so that everyone in the room 00:00:29.170 --> 00:00:31.150 align:middle line:90% can hear the question. 00:00:31.150 --> 00:00:32.150 align:middle line:90% That'd be great. 00:00:32.150 --> 00:00:33.880 align:middle line:90% Just a couple of them. 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:36.560 align:middle line:84% Ben's books are for sale here from the bookstore. 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.310 align:middle line:90% Thank you for coming. 00:00:39.310 --> 00:00:42.580 align:middle line:84% Kentucky Club included, and he's happy to sign them certainly 00:00:42.580 --> 00:00:47.340 align:middle line:84% after our questions, our Q and A. Anyone? 00:00:47.340 --> 00:00:50.337 align:middle line:90% Don't be shy. 00:00:50.337 --> 00:00:52.170 align:middle line:84% I did want to say something about this story 00:00:52.170 --> 00:00:58.170 align:middle line:84% and why I wrote it and it's because Juarez and the drugs 00:00:58.170 --> 00:01:00.930 align:middle line:84% and the drug discourse in our country 00:01:00.930 --> 00:01:04.860 align:middle line:84% is all in the newspapers, and they're all nonfiction. 00:01:04.860 --> 00:01:06.960 align:middle line:90% And I'm not a reporter. 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:08.460 align:middle line:90% I'm a writer. 00:01:08.460 --> 00:01:13.920 align:middle line:84% And I wanted to write about people who do drugs 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:17.620 align:middle line:84% and who sell them because they're real people. 00:01:17.620 --> 00:01:19.260 align:middle line:90% They're not animals. 00:01:19.260 --> 00:01:26.270 align:middle line:84% And they're not and they're not even that mean. 00:01:26.270 --> 00:01:32.420 align:middle line:84% They're just people who do this and they make a living on it. 00:01:32.420 --> 00:01:34.790 align:middle line:90% And it's terrible. 00:01:34.790 --> 00:01:36.230 align:middle line:90% It's terrible. 00:01:36.230 --> 00:01:41.060 align:middle line:84% But no more terrible than people who are 00:01:41.060 --> 00:01:44.330 align:middle line:84% like Halliburton who make a living on selling 00:01:44.330 --> 00:01:47.180 align:middle line:90% guns and ammunition for wars. 00:01:47.180 --> 00:01:51.120 align:middle line:84% And those people even hurt more people, frankly. 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.590 align:middle line:84% And so I just wanted to write from the perspective 00:01:53.590 --> 00:01:58.040 align:middle line:84% of a human being, of a family, of a man, who sells drugs 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:00.230 align:middle line:90% from the perspective of-- 00:02:00.230 --> 00:02:01.640 align:middle line:90% and that's what I do. 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:05.780 align:middle line:84% I create these characters who are in this world. 00:02:05.780 --> 00:02:09.830 align:middle line:84% because I feel close to the ground on this living, 00:02:09.830 --> 00:02:10.880 align:middle line:90% in El Paso. 00:02:10.880 --> 00:02:13.820 align:middle line:84% And I think all my stories come out of that space. 00:02:13.820 --> 00:02:21.560 align:middle line:90% 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.424 align:middle line:90% See the hands coming over here. 00:02:23.424 --> 00:02:23.924 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHS] 00:02:23.924 --> 00:02:25.130 align:middle line:90% Look at this. 00:02:25.130 --> 00:02:25.630 align:middle line:90% They come. 00:02:25.630 --> 00:02:31.210 align:middle line:90% 00:02:31.210 --> 00:02:34.520 align:middle line:84% This has very little to do with the story itself. 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.390 align:middle line:84% But if I'm not mistaken, El Paso is 00:02:37.390 --> 00:02:41.350 align:middle line:84% rated as one of the safest cities in the United States. 00:02:41.350 --> 00:02:45.630 align:middle line:84% Yet, Juarez is one of the most dangerous places in the world. 00:02:45.630 --> 00:02:47.750 align:middle line:84% How does that happen or is that-- 00:02:47.750 --> 00:02:49.550 align:middle line:90% That is absolutely correct. 00:02:49.550 --> 00:02:52.460 align:middle line:84% And El Paso has been rated for a city of its size 00:02:52.460 --> 00:02:54.560 align:middle line:84% as one of the safest cities in the United States 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:56.640 align:middle line:90% for the last 15 years. 00:02:56.640 --> 00:02:58.520 align:middle line:90% So it's not like an outlier. 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.950 align:middle line:90% It's not like just one year. 00:03:00.950 --> 00:03:05.120 align:middle line:90% It's a really, really safe city. 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:06.830 align:middle line:84% The DA actually is a good friend of mine 00:03:06.830 --> 00:03:10.980 align:middle line:84% and I ask them about, what are your theories about that? 00:03:10.980 --> 00:03:14.860 align:middle line:84% One of them is that El Pasoans, generally speaking, 00:03:14.860 --> 00:03:16.050 align:middle line:90% are not very violent people. 00:03:16.050 --> 00:03:17.550 align:middle line:90% They're not. 00:03:17.550 --> 00:03:19.140 align:middle line:84% And I don't think people in Juarez 00:03:19.140 --> 00:03:22.750 align:middle line:84% are either, frankly, on some level. 00:03:22.750 --> 00:03:27.870 align:middle line:84% But when you have a corrupt social system and a system 00:03:27.870 --> 00:03:33.840 align:middle line:84% that, a judicial system that is totally broken, 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:36.480 align:middle line:90% it creates social chaos. 00:03:36.480 --> 00:03:37.530 align:middle line:90% It really does. 00:03:37.530 --> 00:03:40.020 align:middle line:84% And that's part of the problem in Juarez. 00:03:40.020 --> 00:03:43.470 align:middle line:84% People can attribute all of the violence to the drug wars, 00:03:43.470 --> 00:03:46.260 align:middle line:90% but nobody knows that. 00:03:46.260 --> 00:03:47.040 align:middle line:90% Nobody knows. 00:03:47.040 --> 00:03:50.790 align:middle line:84% Two percent of the crimes are actually investigated. 00:03:50.790 --> 00:03:53.220 align:middle line:84% So how can a public official tell you 00:03:53.220 --> 00:03:55.890 align:middle line:84% that we are the violence in Juarez is 00:03:55.890 --> 00:03:59.580 align:middle line:90% attributable to the drug wars? 00:03:59.580 --> 00:04:05.400 align:middle line:84% Now obviously, a good part of it is. 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:07.620 align:middle line:84% But when you create that kind of social chaos, 00:04:07.620 --> 00:04:09.900 align:middle line:90% you can go off someone. 00:04:09.900 --> 00:04:12.390 align:middle line:90% You can do that. 00:04:12.390 --> 00:04:14.880 align:middle line:84% In my first story, I write about a man who disappears 00:04:14.880 --> 00:04:17.760 align:middle line:90% and it's a mistaken identity. 00:04:17.760 --> 00:04:20.459 align:middle line:84% He may be collateral damage, but he's dead nonetheless. 00:04:20.459 --> 00:04:21.990 align:middle line:90% And that happens. 00:04:21.990 --> 00:04:24.210 align:middle line:84% I have friends of mine who have lost friends 00:04:24.210 --> 00:04:28.240 align:middle line:84% and they weren't involved in drugs at all. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:33.750 align:middle line:84% And so it's a system that has to be fixed, 00:04:33.750 --> 00:04:40.500 align:middle line:84% has to be addressed in order for kind of a social normalcy 00:04:40.500 --> 00:04:42.450 align:middle line:90% to return. 00:04:42.450 --> 00:04:45.230 align:middle line:90% And I don't see that happening. 00:04:45.230 --> 00:04:47.970 align:middle line:84% And that is the one thing about the United States, 00:04:47.970 --> 00:04:48.930 align:middle line:90% say what you will. 00:04:48.930 --> 00:04:53.370 align:middle line:84% But we have a judicial system that more or less works. 00:04:53.370 --> 00:04:54.700 align:middle line:90% It's not perfect. 00:04:54.700 --> 00:04:56.370 align:middle line:90% But it more or less works. 00:04:56.370 --> 00:05:01.200 align:middle line:84% And that also helps us not to have a social chaos as well. 00:05:01.200 --> 00:05:13.390 align:middle line:90% 00:05:13.390 --> 00:05:17.860 align:middle line:84% I read that you curated a show with the photographer Julián 00:05:17.860 --> 00:05:18.910 align:middle line:90% Cadorna. 00:05:18.910 --> 00:05:24.010 align:middle line:84% And I was wondering if you often collaborate with other artists. 00:05:24.010 --> 00:05:24.880 align:middle line:90% I do. 00:05:24.880 --> 00:05:26.980 align:middle line:84% And I love to collaborate with other artists. 00:05:26.980 --> 00:05:29.863 align:middle line:84% I collaborate often with the artist James Drake. 00:05:29.863 --> 00:05:31.780 align:middle line:84% I don't know if you're familiar with his work. 00:05:31.780 --> 00:05:35.410 align:middle line:84% And Julián Cardona, I was particularly, 00:05:35.410 --> 00:05:37.660 align:middle line:84% I really have always loved his work. 00:05:37.660 --> 00:05:42.160 align:middle line:84% And they call him, a lot of people 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.820 align:middle line:84% consider him a journalist, a photojournalist. 00:05:45.820 --> 00:05:48.550 align:middle line:84% And I always considered him an artist 00:05:48.550 --> 00:05:49.940 align:middle line:90% because I loved his work. 00:05:49.940 --> 00:05:53.230 align:middle line:90% And I was given the opportunity. 00:05:53.230 --> 00:05:54.690 align:middle line:90% There was a gallery in New York. 00:05:54.690 --> 00:05:56.982 align:middle line:84% And I don't remember the name of the gallery right now; 00:05:56.982 --> 00:05:57.760 align:middle line:90% it's been a while. 00:05:57.760 --> 00:06:01.270 align:middle line:84% And they ask writers to curate the show. 00:06:01.270 --> 00:06:05.170 align:middle line:84% And the rules are this: the artists 00:06:05.170 --> 00:06:10.120 align:middle line:90% you pick can't have had a show. 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:18.310 align:middle line:84% He couldn't have been in a big major show at all. 00:06:18.310 --> 00:06:20.650 align:middle line:84% So my hands were a little bit tied 00:06:20.650 --> 00:06:23.560 align:middle line:84% because you like artists but you realize, oh, yeah, 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.030 align:middle line:90% but they've had this big show. 00:06:25.030 --> 00:06:26.560 align:middle line:84% Or they've been in this big show. 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.020 align:middle line:84% And with Julián, because he wasn't considered 00:06:29.020 --> 00:06:35.260 align:middle line:84% a photographer in the artist sense, I picked him. 00:06:35.260 --> 00:06:40.360 align:middle line:84% And we, together, Julián and I, went through all of his work. 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:42.220 align:middle line:90% And then we picked. 00:06:42.220 --> 00:06:45.160 align:middle line:84% And we did a narrative of it and we set it up. 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.770 align:middle line:84% And it was really a beautiful experience. 00:06:47.770 --> 00:06:53.050 align:middle line:84% And he's still doing fantastic work in Juarez. 00:06:53.050 --> 00:06:56.590 align:middle line:90% He is an amazing photographer. 00:06:56.590 --> 00:07:00.850 align:middle line:84% As payback to me he gave me one of his photographs, 00:07:00.850 --> 00:07:03.280 align:middle line:90% which I treasure. 00:07:03.280 --> 00:07:08.420 align:middle line:84% Because the photograph is actually taken here in Arizona. 00:07:08.420 --> 00:07:11.110 align:middle line:84% There's a group that was working and finding 00:07:11.110 --> 00:07:13.480 align:middle line:84% people in the desert who were crossing 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.810 align:middle line:84% and they saved this one young man 00:07:16.810 --> 00:07:20.530 align:middle line:84% and he was eating his first meal. 00:07:20.530 --> 00:07:23.620 align:middle line:84% And the photograph is of the young man's hands 00:07:23.620 --> 00:07:26.590 align:middle line:84% as he's holding this plate of food 00:07:26.590 --> 00:07:28.510 align:middle line:84% in the black and white photograph. 00:07:28.510 --> 00:07:30.760 align:middle line:84% And I look at it every single day. 00:07:30.760 --> 00:07:37.360 align:middle line:84% And I think it's so beautiful and it reminds me 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:44.260 align:middle line:84% of everything we have: food, water, safety. 00:07:44.260 --> 00:07:49.720 align:middle line:84% And I look at it and it's probably to me to me 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.660 align:middle line:90% it's a very holy photograph. 00:07:52.660 --> 00:07:54.310 align:middle line:84% So I'm glad you asked me about that. 00:07:54.310 --> 00:08:01.615 align:middle line:90% 00:08:01.615 --> 00:08:02.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:08:02.510 --> 00:08:03.010 align:middle line:90% Hi. 00:08:03.010 --> 00:08:05.170 align:middle line:84% I've always lived in border towns 00:08:05.170 --> 00:08:08.500 align:middle line:84% and I loved your book because the dialogue 00:08:08.500 --> 00:08:12.100 align:middle line:90% felt very familiar and honest. 00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:15.640 align:middle line:84% And I was just wondering beyond the concept of Spanglish 00:08:15.640 --> 00:08:18.850 align:middle line:84% how you think about the nature and flavor of language 00:08:18.850 --> 00:08:21.470 align:middle line:90% on the border? 00:08:21.470 --> 00:08:23.820 align:middle line:84% I think that because I lived on the border 00:08:23.820 --> 00:08:27.500 align:middle line:84% and because I lived it between two languages I always 00:08:27.500 --> 00:08:30.890 align:middle line:84% felt it made me fall in love with language, period. 00:08:30.890 --> 00:08:32.870 align:middle line:84% Because I was like, wow, look at that word. 00:08:32.870 --> 00:08:35.780 align:middle line:84% And then sometimes I even now, there's 00:08:35.780 --> 00:08:38.120 align:middle line:84% a word I have and it's in Spanish 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:40.610 align:middle line:84% and I can't think of like what's the word in English? 00:08:40.610 --> 00:08:41.370 align:middle line:90% You know. 00:08:41.370 --> 00:08:48.620 align:middle line:84% And there's certain words that don't exist in English at all. 00:08:48.620 --> 00:08:50.360 align:middle line:84% There's a word that comes to mind. 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:50.860 align:middle line:90% Velados. 00:08:50.860 --> 00:08:53.120 align:middle line:90% 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.660 align:middle line:84% There's no concept in English for that word. 00:08:56.660 --> 00:09:01.610 align:middle line:84% I can explain it because it comes from a religious context. 00:09:01.610 --> 00:09:05.510 align:middle line:84% Vela is a candle so that often people 00:09:05.510 --> 00:09:09.710 align:middle line:84% will pray all night like for [INAUDIBLE] de Guadalupe or one 00:09:09.710 --> 00:09:12.390 align:middle line:84% of those big events and they'll pray all night. 00:09:12.390 --> 00:09:13.890 align:middle line:90% And so they're tired. 00:09:13.890 --> 00:09:16.520 align:middle line:84% So that comes from the candle, Vela. 00:09:16.520 --> 00:09:19.760 align:middle line:84% And so they haven't slept all night. 00:09:19.760 --> 00:09:21.930 align:middle line:90% So they're velados. 00:09:21.930 --> 00:09:24.320 align:middle line:84% And so now it doesn't necessarily 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.690 align:middle line:84% have to have a religious context anymore. 00:09:26.690 --> 00:09:29.870 align:middle line:84% I can explain the concept but there is no word in English. 00:09:29.870 --> 00:09:34.790 align:middle line:84% And sometimes it's the other way around as well. 00:09:34.790 --> 00:09:45.200 align:middle line:84% And also because my father was, I loved the way he spoke. 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.270 align:middle line:90% He manipulated language. 00:09:47.270 --> 00:09:50.570 align:middle line:84% He really felt more comfortable with Spanish 00:09:50.570 --> 00:09:54.290 align:middle line:84% but he didn't speak a really correct Spanish. 00:09:54.290 --> 00:09:56.180 align:middle line:90% He didn't do that. 00:09:56.180 --> 00:09:58.160 align:middle line:84% And my grandfather would be furious with him. 00:09:58.160 --> 00:10:01.010 align:middle line:84% He just hated the way that my father spoke Spanish. 00:10:01.010 --> 00:10:02.930 align:middle line:84% And a lot of Mexicans really hate the way 00:10:02.930 --> 00:10:09.110 align:middle line:84% that we pochos in the United States manipulate the language. 00:10:09.110 --> 00:10:12.440 align:middle line:84% We destroy the beauty of the Spanish language. 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.326 align:middle line:90% But you how would they? 00:10:14.326 --> 00:10:14.858 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:10:14.858 --> 00:10:15.650 align:middle line:90% They want a border. 00:10:15.650 --> 00:10:18.800 align:middle line:84% And my father would say, in Spanish you say-- 00:10:18.800 --> 00:10:22.040 align:middle line:84% in English you say, the telephone is ringing. 00:10:22.040 --> 00:10:26.990 align:middle line:84% In Spanish you'd say, está sonando teléfono. 00:10:26.990 --> 00:10:30.025 align:middle line:84% My father would say, está ringando telefono. 00:10:30.025 --> 00:10:33.020 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:10:33.020 --> 00:10:35.660 align:middle line:90% I thought that was beautiful. 00:10:35.660 --> 00:10:38.430 align:middle line:90% I love that kind of stuff. 00:10:38.430 --> 00:10:41.540 align:middle line:84% And even though, because I'm an educated man, 00:10:41.540 --> 00:10:44.720 align:middle line:84% I grew up on the border listening to Spanglish, 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:50.660 align:middle line:84% when I went to school I learned correct Spanish. 00:10:50.660 --> 00:10:54.200 align:middle line:84% I learned how to read it and I learned how to write it. 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:57.290 align:middle line:84% And I was very proud of myself that I could do it correctly. 00:10:57.290 --> 00:10:59.780 align:middle line:84% But I was still in love with the border slang. 00:10:59.780 --> 00:11:03.110 align:middle line:90% It's just like, I don't know. 00:11:03.110 --> 00:11:04.940 align:middle line:90% It's just like so fucking cool. 00:11:04.940 --> 00:11:06.420 align:middle line:90% You know? 00:11:06.420 --> 00:11:06.965 align:middle line:90% It's great. 00:11:06.965 --> 00:11:09.440 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.930 align:middle line:84% I'm going to check you out for one more question. 00:11:11.930 --> 00:11:14.540 align:middle line:84% One over here and then like I said, 00:11:14.540 --> 00:11:18.020 align:middle line:84% there are books available for purchase and for signing. 00:11:18.020 --> 00:11:21.830 align:middle line:84% And as you can tell from Ben's lovely energy, 00:11:21.830 --> 00:11:24.480 align:middle line:84% he's more than happy to speak with you at the table right 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:24.980 align:middle line:90% after. 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:30.560 align:middle line:90% 00:11:30.560 --> 00:11:32.945 align:middle line:84% You've written several young adult novels. 00:11:32.945 --> 00:11:37.690 align:middle line:90% 00:11:37.690 --> 00:11:39.440 align:middle line:84% When you think of the audience that you're 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:45.410 align:middle line:84% writing for what inspires you to write for that audience? 00:11:45.410 --> 00:11:49.700 align:middle line:84% You know, I never think of an audience when I write a book. 00:11:49.700 --> 00:11:50.420 align:middle line:90% I just don't. 00:11:50.420 --> 00:11:51.770 align:middle line:90% I can't. 00:11:51.770 --> 00:11:53.030 align:middle line:90% I can't. 00:11:53.030 --> 00:11:58.700 align:middle line:84% A part of it was that when I first started writing, 00:11:58.700 --> 00:12:03.260 align:middle line:84% I'm really a mama's boy and my mom was a really good, 00:12:03.260 --> 00:12:05.930 align:middle line:90% nice, sweet Catholic lady. 00:12:05.930 --> 00:12:09.890 align:middle line:84% And I would have my mom sitting on my shoulder right here. 00:12:09.890 --> 00:12:12.830 align:middle line:84% And I thought like, I can't do this. 00:12:12.830 --> 00:12:13.748 align:middle line:90% I just feel bad. 00:12:13.748 --> 00:12:14.540 align:middle line:90% I just feel guilty. 00:12:14.540 --> 00:12:17.210 align:middle line:84% My mom would not, she's not going to like this. 00:12:17.210 --> 00:12:19.070 align:middle line:84% Of course she did love my writing. 00:12:19.070 --> 00:12:23.000 align:middle line:84% She just said, she just told me like, you really like to cuss. 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.620 align:middle line:84% And I said no mom, I really don't. 00:12:24.620 --> 00:12:25.970 align:middle line:90% My characters like to cuss. 00:12:25.970 --> 00:12:28.610 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:12:28.610 --> 00:12:31.640 align:middle line:84% So I can't really think of an audience that way 00:12:31.640 --> 00:12:34.220 align:middle line:84% because it kind of really gets in the way. 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:35.090 align:middle line:90% I can't. 00:12:35.090 --> 00:12:39.680 align:middle line:84% So what I do is I just write to the boy in me. 00:12:39.680 --> 00:12:43.600 align:middle line:84% I write, I mean, there's a lot of boy in me. 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.280 align:middle line:84% And my friends will tell you, that Ben's 00:12:46.280 --> 00:12:49.080 align:middle line:84% that's kind of an adolescent in a lot of ways. 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:52.670 align:middle line:84% So it's kind of easy for me to write to that boy 00:12:52.670 --> 00:12:54.560 align:middle line:90% or out of that space. 00:12:54.560 --> 00:12:57.740 align:middle line:84% And I love, and it's great because what 00:12:57.740 --> 00:13:01.070 align:middle line:84% happens is having been an adolescent 00:13:01.070 --> 00:13:06.200 align:middle line:84% and having really screwed up my adolescence, as many of us did, 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:10.790 align:middle line:84% then I can create a character that I wanted to be. 00:13:10.790 --> 00:13:15.920 align:middle line:84% All my adolescent teenage boys, that's who I wanted to be. 00:13:15.920 --> 00:13:19.650 align:middle line:84% And I can create them and I can be them for a while. 00:13:19.650 --> 00:13:22.580 align:middle line:84% And then, of course, they're much better looking 00:13:22.580 --> 00:13:24.590 align:middle line:84% and they're all much more gracious 00:13:24.590 --> 00:13:26.090 align:middle line:84% and they're smarter than I ever was. 00:13:26.090 --> 00:13:27.680 align:middle line:90% But that's OK. 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:28.370 align:middle line:90% It's fun. 00:13:28.370 --> 00:13:30.740 align:middle line:84% It's and it's and it's not hard for me. 00:13:30.740 --> 00:13:32.780 align:middle line:90% It really isn't hard. 00:13:32.780 --> 00:13:34.720 align:middle line:90% Not at all. 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.550 align:middle line:90% You also had a question. 00:13:37.550 --> 00:13:40.000 align:middle line:84% I know you struggled with a lot of lines in your life 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:46.540 align:middle line:84% as you lived on the border and other cultural changes 00:13:46.540 --> 00:13:47.797 align:middle line:90% and just who you are. 00:13:47.797 --> 00:13:51.085 align:middle line:84% So identity politics, do you find yourself being 00:13:51.085 --> 00:13:52.210 align:middle line:90% called the writer of color? 00:13:52.210 --> 00:13:56.440 align:middle line:90% 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.390 align:middle line:90% This is how I'll answer that. 00:13:58.390 --> 00:13:59.920 align:middle line:90% I don't. 00:13:59.920 --> 00:14:01.503 align:middle line:84% I've always considered myself, I've 00:14:01.503 --> 00:14:02.920 align:middle line:84% always been very proud of the fact 00:14:02.920 --> 00:14:04.690 align:middle line:90% that I was Mexican-American. 00:14:04.690 --> 00:14:10.270 align:middle line:84% And I'm very proud of the fact of being a son of a people who 00:14:10.270 --> 00:14:14.350 align:middle line:84% have never been properly thanked for making this country great, 00:14:14.350 --> 00:14:15.370 align:middle line:90% frankly. 00:14:15.370 --> 00:14:17.440 align:middle line:90% And I'm very proud of that. 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.480 align:middle line:84% And I'm very proud of my parents I'm very 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.450 align:middle line:90% proud of being my mother's son. 00:14:22.450 --> 00:14:27.160 align:middle line:84% But that said, you know when you go out into the world, 00:14:27.160 --> 00:14:29.260 align:middle line:90% you're going to get labeled. 00:14:29.260 --> 00:14:31.190 align:middle line:84% And you just kind of deal with it. 00:14:31.190 --> 00:14:32.620 align:middle line:90% You negotiate those places. 00:14:32.620 --> 00:14:36.830 align:middle line:84% When I won the Pen Faulkner, El Paso Times: 00:14:36.830 --> 00:14:39.560 align:middle line:84% "El Paso Writer Wins Pen Faulkner." 00:14:39.560 --> 00:14:45.830 align:middle line:84% The Dallas Morning News: "First Texan Wins Pen Faulkner." 00:14:45.830 --> 00:14:49.355 align:middle line:84% Out Magazine in New York: "Gay Man Wins Pen Faulkner." 00:14:49.355 --> 00:14:51.170 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:14:51.170 --> 00:14:54.380 align:middle line:84% And all of the Latino outlets in the country, 00:14:54.380 --> 00:14:59.030 align:middle line:84% "First Latino to Win Pen Faulkner." 00:14:59.030 --> 00:15:00.320 align:middle line:90% I don't mind. 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:01.550 align:middle line:90% You know why? 00:15:01.550 --> 00:15:03.770 align:middle line:84% Because look at all those communities that love me. 00:15:03.770 --> 00:15:05.990 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:15:05.990 --> 00:15:07.580 align:middle line:90% That's very cool, actually. 00:15:07.580 --> 00:15:09.410 align:middle line:84% So you know, I'm kind of grateful for that. 00:15:09.410 --> 00:15:12.260 align:middle line:84% Because there's a group of people that are claiming you. 00:15:12.260 --> 00:15:15.200 align:middle line:84% And I think that's beautiful and I think that's lovely. 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:17.060 align:middle line:84% And I don't think that we can live 00:15:17.060 --> 00:15:21.912 align:middle line:84% without those kinds of negotiations in our identities 00:15:21.912 --> 00:15:23.120 align:middle line:90% in the world that we live in. 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:24.260 align:middle line:90% It would be nice. 00:15:24.260 --> 00:15:27.710 align:middle line:84% It would be nice that I would say, well, I'm just a man. 00:15:27.710 --> 00:15:30.680 align:middle line:84% You know, I don't live in that world. 00:15:30.680 --> 00:15:33.210 align:middle line:90% It matters that I'm gay. 00:15:33.210 --> 00:15:34.640 align:middle line:90% And it matters that I'm Latino. 00:15:34.640 --> 00:15:37.270 align:middle line:90% And I live in that world. 00:15:37.270 --> 00:15:42.380 align:middle line:84% And so I would live in it and bathe in it. 00:15:42.380 --> 00:15:46.305 align:middle line:90% And it's not always easy. 00:15:46.305 --> 00:15:47.180 align:middle line:90% But I'm good with it. 00:15:47.180 --> 00:15:50.600 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:51.200 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:51.350 align:middle line:90% Gracias. 00:15:51.350 --> 00:15:52.183 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 00:15:52.183 --> 00:15:55.480 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:57.000 align:middle line:90%