WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.180 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:03.180 --> 00:00:05.230 align:middle line:84% Thank you for that kind introduction. 00:00:05.230 --> 00:00:08.460 align:middle line:84% My head is a little bit larger than when I came in. 00:00:08.460 --> 00:00:11.400 align:middle line:90% 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:14.740 align:middle line:84% And thanks to all of you for coming out tonight. 00:00:14.740 --> 00:00:17.460 align:middle line:84% I know what a seductive mistress television can be. 00:00:17.460 --> 00:00:20.020 align:middle line:90% 00:00:20.020 --> 00:00:24.115 align:middle line:84% So I'm going to read two screeds from my new book. 00:00:24.115 --> 00:00:25.740 align:middle line:84% I like to read the screeds because they 00:00:25.740 --> 00:00:28.800 align:middle line:90% don't require context. 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:31.440 align:middle line:84% Let's see a disclaimer before I begin because I've 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.670 align:middle line:84% seen very frightened faces on some 00:00:34.670 --> 00:00:36.420 align:middle line:84% of the gentlemen in the audience when I've 00:00:36.420 --> 00:00:39.060 align:middle line:90% read this first one recently. 00:00:39.060 --> 00:00:41.520 align:middle line:90% So I want to-- 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.840 align:middle line:84% yeah-- issue a disclaimer that the views and opinions 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:49.860 align:middle line:84% expressed in the commentaries in this novel not necessarily 00:00:49.860 --> 00:00:55.500 align:middle line:84% endorsed by Lydia Millet, or her affiliates, 00:00:55.500 --> 00:00:56.970 align:middle line:90% or many subsidiaries. 00:00:56.970 --> 00:01:00.900 align:middle line:90% 00:01:00.900 --> 00:01:03.150 align:middle line:84% So this is the very beginning of this particular book, 00:01:03.150 --> 00:01:05.190 align:middle line:90% Magnificence. 00:01:05.190 --> 00:01:07.980 align:middle line:84% "It was a stricken love but still love. 00:01:07.980 --> 00:01:09.630 align:middle line:84% It was the kind of love that gazed up 00:01:09.630 --> 00:01:12.510 align:middle line:84% at you from the bare white flood of your headlights. 00:01:12.510 --> 00:01:16.110 align:middle line:84% A wide eyed love with a meekness of grass eaters. 00:01:16.110 --> 00:01:18.450 align:middle line:90% Soft fur, pink tongue. 00:01:18.450 --> 00:01:21.930 align:middle line:84% And if he got too close, a whiff of mulch on the breath. 00:01:21.930 --> 00:01:25.830 align:middle line:84% This was the love she cherished for her husband. 00:01:25.830 --> 00:01:27.240 align:middle line:90% The love had other moments. 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:28.170 align:middle line:90% Of course, it did. 00:01:28.170 --> 00:01:32.250 align:middle line:84% But its everyday form was vegetarian. 00:01:32.250 --> 00:01:35.130 align:middle line:84% She suspected it was the love of most wives for their husbands 00:01:35.130 --> 00:01:38.250 align:middle line:84% after some time had passed, not for the newlyweds. 00:01:38.250 --> 00:01:40.480 align:middle line:84% That was the nature of the condition. 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.463 align:middle line:84% But for the season, the ones who had seniority. 00:01:43.463 --> 00:01:44.880 align:middle line:84% When she thought of conjugal love, 00:01:44.880 --> 00:01:47.430 align:middle line:84% she saw a field of husbands stretched out 00:01:47.430 --> 00:01:53.400 align:middle line:84% in front of her, a broad wide field, possibly a rice paddy. 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:56.142 align:middle line:90% They were bent over hoeing. 00:01:56.142 --> 00:01:56.850 align:middle line:90% Did you hoe rice? 00:01:56.850 --> 00:01:58.290 align:middle line:90% Well, whatever. 00:01:58.290 --> 00:02:00.330 align:middle line:84% The way she saw them, the husbands 00:02:00.330 --> 00:02:01.980 align:middle line:90% had a Chinese thing going on. 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:05.010 align:middle line:84% They toiled like billions of peasants. 00:02:05.010 --> 00:02:07.110 align:middle line:84% Technically and historically in this very moment 00:02:07.110 --> 00:02:10.050 align:middle line:84% in most of the world it was the wives who toiled. 00:02:10.050 --> 00:02:11.850 align:middle line:84% The wives toiled for their livelihoods, 00:02:11.850 --> 00:02:14.520 align:middle line:84% for the husbands, and the little children. 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.740 align:middle line:90% Sure those were the facts. 00:02:16.740 --> 00:02:19.470 align:middle line:84% It was the wives historically and factually 00:02:19.470 --> 00:02:22.950 align:middle line:84% in that limited historical factual sense that 00:02:22.950 --> 00:02:24.878 align:middle line:90% were the beast of burden. 00:02:24.878 --> 00:02:26.670 align:middle line:84% Even in the richer places, it was the women 00:02:26.670 --> 00:02:28.260 align:middle line:84% who shortened their life expectancy 00:02:28.260 --> 00:02:30.870 align:middle line:84% by marrying whereas the husbands lived 00:02:30.870 --> 00:02:34.710 align:middle line:84% longer than their freewheeling bachelor counterparts. 00:02:34.710 --> 00:02:37.170 align:middle line:84% Still, there was something about the essence of husbands 00:02:37.170 --> 00:02:41.850 align:middle line:84% that made them seem like sturdy toilers, husband housebound. 00:02:41.850 --> 00:02:43.410 align:middle line:84% It might be the wives who were bound 00:02:43.410 --> 00:02:45.360 align:middle line:84% to the houses materially speaking, 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.460 align:middle line:84% but the husbands were bound to them. 00:02:47.460 --> 00:02:51.090 align:middle line:84% This was because of the narrow focus of most men, 00:02:51.090 --> 00:02:54.450 align:middle line:84% how they tended to have few intimates in emotional terms. 00:02:54.450 --> 00:02:56.640 align:middle line:84% They left the social bonding to the wives, 00:02:56.640 --> 00:02:59.175 align:middle line:90% so they were bound to them. 00:02:59.175 --> 00:03:01.050 align:middle line:84% And she was ready to tell him all the details 00:03:01.050 --> 00:03:02.760 align:middle line:90% if that was what he wanted. 00:03:02.760 --> 00:03:05.340 align:middle line:90% She was prepared to come clean. 00:03:05.340 --> 00:03:07.950 align:middle line:84% But a toiler could so easily be hurt. 00:03:07.950 --> 00:03:09.690 align:middle line:84% The toiler was chronically exhausted 00:03:09.690 --> 00:03:11.620 align:middle line:90% from his long days of labor. 00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:14.520 align:middle line:90% What labor you might ask. 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.890 align:middle line:84% The labor of being a man, of course. 00:03:16.890 --> 00:03:18.900 align:middle line:90% It was hard to be a man. 00:03:18.900 --> 00:03:24.420 align:middle line:84% The men were all insane basically due to testosterone. 00:03:24.420 --> 00:03:27.540 align:middle line:84% You could see it in them roiling under the surface. 00:03:27.540 --> 00:03:29.400 align:middle line:90% A few exceptions prove the rule. 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:33.000 align:middle line:84% And the smart men were big enough to admit it. 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.390 align:middle line:84% For instance, steroids made you more of a man chemically 00:03:36.390 --> 00:03:40.752 align:middle line:84% and also not a coincidence made you insane. 00:03:40.752 --> 00:03:42.210 align:middle line:84% Should read that autism was thought 00:03:42.210 --> 00:03:45.820 align:middle line:84% by scientists to be an exaggerated form of maleness. 00:03:45.820 --> 00:03:48.210 align:middle line:90% So there was that. 00:03:48.210 --> 00:03:50.640 align:middle line:84% The latent madness and retardation of men 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:52.560 align:middle line:84% was compounded by the fact that most of them 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.290 align:middle line:84% didn't get to kill their own prey anymore. 00:03:55.290 --> 00:03:59.880 align:middle line:84% Stop living things and slay them in a savage bloodletting. 00:03:59.880 --> 00:04:01.680 align:middle line:84% The men even when they didn't know it 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.160 align:middle line:90% were frustrated by this. 00:04:03.160 --> 00:04:06.450 align:middle line:84% They were unfit to live in civilized society. 00:04:06.450 --> 00:04:09.240 align:middle line:84% Of course, women were also subject to hormonal madness 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:12.360 align:middle line:84% famously so the estrogen or whatever, 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.880 align:middle line:84% so-called premenstrual syndrome, the chemicals that 00:04:14.880 --> 00:04:18.060 align:middle line:84% in excess made them into caricatures of women. 00:04:18.060 --> 00:04:20.550 align:middle line:84% Hysteria, for instance, as Freud had called it, 00:04:20.550 --> 00:04:22.980 align:middle line:90% neurosis that time of the month. 00:04:22.980 --> 00:04:25.290 align:middle line:84% Of course, Freud had been largely discredited. 00:04:25.290 --> 00:04:27.510 align:middle line:84% He had been a philosopher more than a scientist, 00:04:27.510 --> 00:04:30.720 align:middle line:84% and Americans did not trust philosophers. 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.590 align:middle line:84% Far from it, also, he did cocaine. 00:04:34.590 --> 00:04:37.230 align:middle line:84% And still no question the fairer sex was more changeable 00:04:37.230 --> 00:04:38.760 align:middle line:90% than the unfair one. 00:04:38.760 --> 00:04:41.520 align:middle line:84% In practice, this meant that the women's madness sometimes 00:04:41.520 --> 00:04:44.295 align:middle line:84% receded but with the men it was constant. 00:04:44.295 --> 00:04:46.800 align:middle line:90% 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.660 align:middle line:84% When it came to insanity, women were 00:04:48.660 --> 00:04:53.490 align:middle line:84% indecisive whilst men never let up. 00:04:53.490 --> 00:04:55.200 align:middle line:84% Oddly, the chronic insanity of men 00:04:55.200 --> 00:04:57.870 align:middle line:84% was often referred to as stability. 00:04:57.870 --> 00:05:01.060 align:middle line:84% The men being permanent sociopaths 00:05:01.060 --> 00:05:04.540 align:middle line:84% got credit for consistency whereas the women 00:05:04.540 --> 00:05:10.240 align:middle line:84% being mere part time neurotics were typecast as flighty. 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.040 align:middle line:84% Essentially, the female bouts of sanity 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.560 align:middle line:84% were used as weapons against them. 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.170 align:middle line:90% Sociopaths versus neurotics. 00:05:17.170 --> 00:05:20.770 align:middle line:84% It was a non-trivial distinction since many men took 00:05:20.770 --> 00:05:24.880 align:middle line:84% the thing a bit too far frankly becoming serial killers, wife 00:05:24.880 --> 00:05:28.780 align:middle line:84% beaters, dirty cops, or boy soldiers, and roving gangs, 00:05:28.780 --> 00:05:32.170 align:middle line:84% war criminals tyrants, and demagogues. 00:05:32.170 --> 00:05:34.330 align:middle line:90% Not so much the women. 00:05:34.330 --> 00:05:36.520 align:middle line:84% In one sense, though, she didn't blame the men. 00:05:36.520 --> 00:05:38.740 align:middle line:84% That would be blaming the victim. 00:05:38.740 --> 00:05:41.050 align:middle line:84% They were hobbled by their repressed rage and Asperger 00:05:41.050 --> 00:05:44.080 align:middle line:84% syndrome, variations on which were lavishly 00:05:44.080 --> 00:05:47.680 align:middle line:84% spread throughout the male population, but so what? 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.020 align:middle line:84% Far from blaming them, she had always loved them, 00:05:50.020 --> 00:05:52.150 align:middle line:90% loved them for their sad flaws. 00:05:52.150 --> 00:05:54.280 align:middle line:90% The men were tragic heroes. 00:05:54.280 --> 00:05:58.960 align:middle line:84% To be a tragic hero, all that was needed was manhood. 00:05:58.960 --> 00:05:59.950 align:middle line:90% She loved them. 00:05:59.950 --> 00:06:02.170 align:middle line:90% Yes, she did. 00:06:02.170 --> 00:06:04.630 align:middle line:84% Casey was driving her to the airport, down La Cienega, 00:06:04.630 --> 00:06:05.710 align:middle line:90% at rush hour. 00:06:05.710 --> 00:06:07.690 align:middle line:84% There was a comfortable silence between them. 00:06:07.690 --> 00:06:09.970 align:middle line:84% Susan gazed out the window at traffic. 00:06:09.970 --> 00:06:13.570 align:middle line:84% The traffic was full of men, most of whom were tragic. 00:06:13.570 --> 00:06:16.870 align:middle line:84% The tragic men sat in their cars driving. 00:06:16.870 --> 00:06:18.820 align:middle line:90% Some played with radio dials. 00:06:18.820 --> 00:06:22.780 align:middle line:84% Others picked their noses while staring glassily at nothing, 00:06:22.780 --> 00:06:26.740 align:middle line:84% in many cases completely unaware of their tragic identity. 00:06:26.740 --> 00:06:28.420 align:middle line:84% Women were also driving, of course, 00:06:28.420 --> 00:06:30.400 align:middle line:90% her own daughter for one. 00:06:30.400 --> 00:06:32.230 align:middle line:84% Casey enjoyed driving and drove with speed 00:06:32.230 --> 00:06:33.940 align:middle line:84% and a certain measure of abandon, 00:06:33.940 --> 00:06:36.910 align:middle line:84% and yet these women, including Casey who was in a wheelchair, 00:06:36.910 --> 00:06:39.620 align:middle line:84% were less tragic per se than the men. 00:06:39.620 --> 00:06:42.310 align:middle line:84% The women might be unfortunate, take Casey, for instance. 00:06:42.310 --> 00:06:44.170 align:middle line:90% But few of them were Ophelia. 00:06:44.170 --> 00:06:46.570 align:middle line:84% No, when it came to tragedy, the men 00:06:46.570 --> 00:06:49.470 align:middle line:90% had slyly cornered the market. 00:06:49.470 --> 00:06:51.227 align:middle line:84% Driving gave Casey a feeling of mastery 00:06:51.227 --> 00:06:52.810 align:middle line:84% she didn't have in the chair since she 00:06:52.810 --> 00:06:54.782 align:middle line:90% was higher up when she drove. 00:06:54.782 --> 00:06:56.740 align:middle line:84% In the driver's seat, she was on the same plane 00:06:56.740 --> 00:06:57.532 align:middle line:90% with everyone else. 00:06:57.532 --> 00:06:59.788 align:middle line:90% The playing field was level. 00:06:59.788 --> 00:07:02.080 align:middle line:84% She was excited, now drumming her fingers on the wheel. 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:04.180 align:middle line:84% And Susan felt exhilarated herself. 00:07:04.180 --> 00:07:06.412 align:middle line:84% Her husband and her employer both returning 00:07:06.412 --> 00:07:07.120 align:middle line:90% from the tropics. 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.833 align:middle line:84% It was a homecoming, a hero's welcome. 00:07:09.833 --> 00:07:11.000 align:middle line:90% Though, come to think of it. 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.870 align:middle line:84% The hero like tragedy, was unfairly 00:07:13.870 --> 00:07:15.940 align:middle line:90% readily available to men. 00:07:15.940 --> 00:07:17.890 align:middle line:84% When she herself stepped off an airplane, 00:07:17.890 --> 00:07:20.770 align:middle line:84% no one would ever shriek enjoy, jump up and down, 00:07:20.770 --> 00:07:23.620 align:middle line:84% and hurl themselves into her arms. 00:07:23.620 --> 00:07:25.660 align:middle line:84% Neither she nor Casey usually smoked, 00:07:25.660 --> 00:07:29.020 align:middle line:84% but impulsively they had bummed Marlboro Reds off a burly biker 00:07:29.020 --> 00:07:31.450 align:middle line:84% at a bar, a guy covered in colorful tattoos 00:07:31.450 --> 00:07:33.947 align:middle line:84% with eagles feathering his biceps. 00:07:33.947 --> 00:07:35.530 align:middle line:84% The only reason they hadn't progressed 00:07:35.530 --> 00:07:37.870 align:middle line:84% to hard liquor in a further festive gesture 00:07:37.870 --> 00:07:39.550 align:middle line:90% was the hour wasn't advanced. 00:07:39.550 --> 00:07:42.220 align:middle line:84% If Susan drank before sunset, she tended to nod off. 00:07:42.220 --> 00:07:44.380 align:middle line:90% Her middle age began to show. 00:07:44.380 --> 00:07:46.630 align:middle line:84% They would wait, Casey had said, and have their drinks 00:07:46.630 --> 00:07:49.450 align:middle line:84% with Hal and T. They would meet the two men at the airport 00:07:49.450 --> 00:07:52.870 align:middle line:84% and take them out to celebrate (Boring dialogue, boring 00:07:52.870 --> 00:07:54.070 align:middle line:90% dialogue.) 00:07:54.070 --> 00:07:57.040 align:middle line:84% Anyway, she would tell him whatever he wanted to know. 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:59.590 align:middle line:84% He had the right to such knowledge, her husband. 00:07:59.590 --> 00:08:01.720 align:middle line:84% But all in all, it would be far better for him 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:03.670 align:middle line:90% if he never asked. 00:08:03.670 --> 00:08:06.280 align:middle line:84% Of course, she would never describe the exact dimensions 00:08:06.280 --> 00:08:08.080 align:middle line:90% of her affection to him. 00:08:08.080 --> 00:08:10.270 align:middle line:84% Those microscopic inclinations were best 00:08:10.270 --> 00:08:12.550 align:middle line:84% kept secret out of protectiveness 00:08:12.550 --> 00:08:14.530 align:middle line:84% for the other more than anything, 00:08:14.530 --> 00:08:16.372 align:middle line:90% a secret she kept to herself. 00:08:16.372 --> 00:08:17.830 align:middle line:84% As everyone guarded their shameful, 00:08:17.830 --> 00:08:20.380 align:middle line:84% shrugged in shadings of instinct, 00:08:20.380 --> 00:08:22.750 align:middle line:84% no one told the smallest increments of their feelings 00:08:22.750 --> 00:08:24.370 align:middle line:90% to their daily beloveds. 00:08:24.370 --> 00:08:26.350 align:middle line:84% No one revealed the minute singularities, 00:08:26.350 --> 00:08:29.650 align:middle line:84% the slack of an ass say and how it caused disgust. 00:08:29.650 --> 00:08:31.846 align:middle line:90% The response was involuntary. 00:08:31.846 --> 00:08:33.429 align:middle line:84% There might be those on second thought 00:08:33.429 --> 00:08:36.190 align:middle line:84% who did reveal such things in times of anger, 00:08:36.190 --> 00:08:39.880 align:middle line:84% but mostly those people were not women. 00:08:39.880 --> 00:08:41.380 align:middle line:84% She would keep them hurting elements 00:08:41.380 --> 00:08:44.650 align:middle line:84% to herself, those subtle insults to a man's self-worth. 00:08:44.650 --> 00:08:46.450 align:middle line:84% In certain moments, for instance, his sex 00:08:46.450 --> 00:08:49.450 align:middle line:84% could seem a forlorn pugnacious servant, 00:08:49.450 --> 00:08:53.055 align:middle line:84% a servant that bowed its head and had a humble comic quality. 00:08:53.055 --> 00:08:54.430 align:middle line:84% Anyway, you could pity something. 00:08:54.430 --> 00:08:56.650 align:middle line:84% Pity it is a brute and still want to use it, 00:08:56.650 --> 00:09:01.180 align:middle line:84% a brute part of a half child, half ape, their handle, 00:09:01.180 --> 00:09:03.700 align:middle line:84% their use, their eagerness, the panting hound. 00:09:03.700 --> 00:09:04.660 align:middle line:90% The metaphor was mixed. 00:09:04.660 --> 00:09:06.400 align:middle line:90% She knew that. 00:09:06.400 --> 00:09:09.130 align:middle line:84% Her love for husbands was like-- it was like a love of deer. 00:09:09.130 --> 00:09:11.410 align:middle line:84% But then, the men themselves were other animals-- 00:09:11.410 --> 00:09:12.580 align:middle line:90% half apes. 00:09:12.580 --> 00:09:15.400 align:middle line:84% And finally, their sexes were dog like. 00:09:15.400 --> 00:09:19.420 align:middle line:84% Quite the menagerie all told She condescended 00:09:19.420 --> 00:09:21.610 align:middle line:84% to the sexes of men, but it wasn't personal. 00:09:21.610 --> 00:09:24.580 align:middle line:84% Clearly, they also kind of send it to hers. 00:09:24.580 --> 00:09:26.920 align:middle line:84% They had their own opinions about the sex of a woman, 00:09:26.920 --> 00:09:30.580 align:middle line:84% and those opinions were not all positive. 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:33.760 align:middle line:84% That much was obvious from say pornography, which 00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:36.310 align:middle line:84% almost every man love, from the purest young boy 00:09:36.310 --> 00:09:38.470 align:middle line:90% to the jaded defiler. 00:09:38.470 --> 00:09:41.320 align:middle line:84% In other words, small secrets were also held against her, 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.840 align:middle line:84% and she did not need to know them. 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.250 align:middle line:84% Pornography she thought, degradation and debasement. 00:09:48.250 --> 00:09:50.470 align:middle line:84% A man like to degrade a woman in pornography. 00:09:50.470 --> 00:09:51.910 align:middle line:90% It made perfect sense. 00:09:51.910 --> 00:09:54.560 align:middle line:84% If she were male, she'd like it too 00:09:54.560 --> 00:09:56.650 align:middle line:84% because a man might not know he was tragic, 00:09:56.650 --> 00:09:59.560 align:middle line:90% but he often suspected it. 00:09:59.560 --> 00:10:04.060 align:middle line:84% On a subconscious level, a man suspected himself of pathos. 00:10:04.060 --> 00:10:07.780 align:middle line:84% A man walked around bearing that half aware weary load. 00:10:07.780 --> 00:10:11.950 align:middle line:84% It was more stressful to suspect than to know for certain women 00:10:11.950 --> 00:10:15.070 align:middle line:84% were oppressed from the outside via the patriarchy. 00:10:15.070 --> 00:10:17.140 align:middle line:84% Girls raped in various African cultures, 00:10:17.140 --> 00:10:19.630 align:middle line:84% for instance, then put to death for their trouble. 00:10:19.630 --> 00:10:22.420 align:middle line:84% But men were oppressed from inside their own skin. 00:10:22.420 --> 00:10:23.560 align:middle line:90% She saw it this way. 00:10:23.560 --> 00:10:26.110 align:middle line:84% The testosterone was a constant barrage 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:28.630 align:middle line:84% not unlike an artillery shelling. 00:10:28.630 --> 00:10:30.780 align:middle line:84% They had doubtless needed it and say pre-history 00:10:30.780 --> 00:10:33.280 align:middle line:84% to run around spearing meat, build-up muscles that impressed 00:10:33.280 --> 00:10:36.370 align:middle line:84% the breeding age females, et cetera, much as baboons 00:10:36.370 --> 00:10:43.713 align:middle line:84% made their loud "wahoo" calls or sported shocking pink anuses. 00:10:43.713 --> 00:10:45.130 align:middle line:84% But now that the men were deprived 00:10:45.130 --> 00:10:47.860 align:middle line:84% of the endorphins of the chase and the butchering, 00:10:47.860 --> 00:10:51.580 align:middle line:84% the hormones were called with no response, a ceaseless useless 00:10:51.580 --> 00:10:53.650 align:middle line:90% siege upon the male psyche. 00:10:53.650 --> 00:10:57.550 align:middle line:84% Naturally, the men held hostage in bunkers of flesh, 00:10:57.550 --> 00:11:00.650 align:middle line:84% sought refuge in pornography and violence. 00:11:00.650 --> 00:11:03.460 align:middle line:90% It was just self-expression." 00:11:03.460 --> 00:11:05.550 align:middle line:90% I'll stop for a moment. 00:11:05.550 --> 00:11:06.304 align:middle line:90%