WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.430 align:middle line:90% 00:00:02.430 --> 00:00:03.870 align:middle line:84% PETER REDGROVE: Among my own poems 00:00:03.870 --> 00:00:07.260 align:middle line:84% this evening are going to be a number about water 00:00:07.260 --> 00:00:10.890 align:middle line:84% because I know in Arizona you appreciate water. 00:00:10.890 --> 00:00:13.960 align:middle line:90% 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:17.980 align:middle line:84% Water is the engine of the universe. 00:00:17.980 --> 00:00:19.800 align:middle line:84% The sun draws it up out of the sea 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.790 align:middle line:84% the clouds rain in the course of its passage. 00:00:23.790 --> 00:00:25.470 align:middle line:84% I've produced all the living beings 00:00:25.470 --> 00:00:27.480 align:middle line:90% that inhabit the universe. 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:32.460 align:middle line:84% I think of water as the most admirable of elements. 00:00:32.460 --> 00:00:39.060 align:middle line:84% Now, my first poem is called "Mr. Waterman." 00:00:39.060 --> 00:00:43.350 align:middle line:84% It's a dialogue between a psychiatrist and his patient. 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:45.720 align:middle line:84% The patient is afflicted with water. 00:00:45.720 --> 00:00:48.345 align:middle line:84% He has too much water in his life. 00:00:48.345 --> 00:00:51.910 align:middle line:90% 00:00:51.910 --> 00:00:55.240 align:middle line:84% Don Thomas is going to do the psychiatrist 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:57.790 align:middle line:90% and I shall be the patient. 00:00:57.790 --> 00:01:00.262 align:middle line:90% "Mr. Waterman." 00:01:00.262 --> 00:01:02.470 align:middle line:84% D.M. THOMAS: "Well, now, we're quite private in here. 00:01:02.470 --> 00:01:04.269 align:middle line:90% You can tell me your troubles. 00:01:04.269 --> 00:01:05.957 align:middle line:90% The pond, I think you said. 00:01:05.957 --> 00:01:07.540 align:middle line:84% REDGROVE: Yes, doctor, we never really 00:01:07.540 --> 00:01:09.910 align:middle line:90% liked that pond in the garden. 00:01:09.910 --> 00:01:11.710 align:middle line:84% At times, it was choked with a sort 00:01:11.710 --> 00:01:16.450 align:middle line:84% of weed, which if you pulled one thread gleefully unraveled 00:01:16.450 --> 00:01:18.760 align:middle line:84% until you had an empty basin before you 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:23.650 align:middle line:84% and the whole of the pond in a soaking heap at your side. 00:01:23.650 --> 00:01:26.740 align:middle line:84% Then at other times it was as clear as gin, 00:01:26.740 --> 00:01:30.400 align:middle line:84% and lay in the grass staring upwards. 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.090 align:middle line:84% If you came anywhere near, the gaze shifted sideways, 00:01:34.090 --> 00:01:39.340 align:middle line:84% and it was you that was being stared at, not the empty sky. 00:01:39.340 --> 00:01:43.420 align:middle line:84% If you were so bold as to come right up to the edge swaggering 00:01:43.420 --> 00:01:46.930 align:middle line:84% and talking loudly to show that you were not afraid. 00:01:46.930 --> 00:01:49.960 align:middle line:84% It presented you with so perfect a reflection 00:01:49.960 --> 00:01:53.980 align:middle line:84% that you stayed there spellbound and nearly missed dinner 00:01:53.980 --> 00:01:57.690 align:middle line:90% getting to know yourself. 00:01:57.690 --> 00:02:01.230 align:middle line:90% Doctor, it had hypnotic powers. 00:02:01.230 --> 00:02:02.700 align:middle line:90% THOMAS: Very well. 00:02:02.700 --> 00:02:04.920 align:middle line:90% Then what happened? 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.860 align:middle line:84% REDGROVE: Well, near the pond was a small bell hung 00:02:07.860 --> 00:02:12.210 align:middle line:84% on a bracket, which the milkman used to ring as he went out 00:02:12.210 --> 00:02:14.850 align:middle line:84% to tell us upstairs in the bedroom 00:02:14.850 --> 00:02:18.930 align:middle line:84% that we could go down and make the early morning tea. 00:02:18.930 --> 00:02:22.920 align:middle line:84% This bell was near a little avenue of rose trees. 00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:27.750 align:middle line:84% One morning very early indeed, it tinged loudly. 00:02:27.750 --> 00:02:30.930 align:middle line:84% And when I looked out, I saw that the empty bottles 00:02:30.930 --> 00:02:33.120 align:middle line:84% we had put out the night before were 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:38.280 align:middle line:90% full of bright green pond water. 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.660 align:middle line:84% I had to go down and empty them before the milkman arrived. 00:02:42.660 --> 00:02:44.310 align:middle line:90% This was only the beginning. 00:02:44.310 --> 00:02:47.250 align:middle line:84% One evening, I was astounded to find 00:02:47.250 --> 00:02:51.720 align:middle line:84% a brace of starfish coupling on the ornamental stone 00:02:51.720 --> 00:02:55.650 align:middle line:84% step of the pool, and, looking up, 00:02:55.650 --> 00:02:58.110 align:middle line:84% my cry to my wife to come and see 00:02:58.110 --> 00:03:01.770 align:middle line:84% was stifled by the sight of a light peppering 00:03:01.770 --> 00:03:06.870 align:middle line:84% of barnacles on the stems of the rose trees. 00:03:06.870 --> 00:03:09.660 align:middle line:84% The vermin had evidently crept there taking advantage 00:03:09.660 --> 00:03:11.670 align:middle line:84% of the thin film of moisture on the ground 00:03:11.670 --> 00:03:15.120 align:middle line:84% after the recent very wet weather. 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.560 align:middle line:84% I dipped a finger into the pond and tasted it. 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:20.550 align:middle line:90% It was brackish. 00:03:20.550 --> 00:03:23.430 align:middle line:90% 00:03:23.430 --> 00:03:24.585 align:middle line:90% THOMAS: But it got worse. 00:03:24.585 --> 00:03:28.200 align:middle line:90% 00:03:28.200 --> 00:03:31.020 align:middle line:90% REDGROVE: It got worse. 00:03:31.020 --> 00:03:34.740 align:middle line:84% One night of howling wind and tempestuous rain. 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:41.220 align:middle line:84% I heard muffled voices outside shouting in rural tones. 00:03:41.220 --> 00:03:42.555 align:middle line:90% Belay there, you lovers. 00:03:42.555 --> 00:03:45.714 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:03:45.714 --> 00:03:48.060 align:middle line:90% 00:03:48.060 --> 00:03:52.060 align:middle line:90% 'Box the forsail capstan!' 00:03:52.060 --> 00:03:52.960 align:middle line:90% 'A line! 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:54.160 align:middle line:90% A line! 00:03:54.160 --> 00:03:58.630 align:middle line:84% Give me a line there for Davy Jones' sake!' 00:03:58.630 --> 00:04:02.830 align:middle line:90% And a great creaking of timbers. 00:04:02.830 --> 00:04:05.170 align:middle line:84% In the morning, there was the garden seat, 00:04:05.170 --> 00:04:08.800 align:middle line:84% which was too big to float dragged tilting into the pond 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.470 align:middle line:90% half in and half out. 00:04:11.470 --> 00:04:14.020 align:middle line:84% THOMAS: But you could put up with all this. 00:04:14.020 --> 00:04:16.870 align:middle line:90% How did the change come about? 00:04:16.870 --> 00:04:22.029 align:middle line:84% REDGROVE: It was getting playful obviously and inventive, 00:04:22.029 --> 00:04:26.350 align:middle line:84% if ill-informed, and might have got dangerous, 00:04:26.350 --> 00:04:28.930 align:middle line:84% I decided to treat it with the consideration 00:04:28.930 --> 00:04:32.170 align:middle line:84% and dignity, which it would probably later have insisted 00:04:32.170 --> 00:04:33.640 align:middle line:90% upon. 00:04:33.640 --> 00:04:35.575 align:middle line:90% And I invited it in as a lodger. 00:04:35.575 --> 00:04:38.290 align:middle line:90% 00:04:38.290 --> 00:04:40.000 align:middle line:84% Bedding it up in the old bathroom. 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.670 align:middle line:90% 00:04:42.670 --> 00:04:45.430 align:middle line:84% At first, I thought I would have to run canvas troughs 00:04:45.430 --> 00:04:48.190 align:middle line:84% up the stairs, so it could get to its room 00:04:48.190 --> 00:04:49.705 align:middle line:90% without soaking the carpets. 00:04:49.705 --> 00:04:52.360 align:middle line:90% 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.090 align:middle line:84% And I removed the flap from the letterbox 00:04:55.090 --> 00:04:58.570 align:middle line:84% so it would be quite free to come and go. 00:04:58.570 --> 00:05:04.720 align:middle line:84% But it soon learnt to keep its form quite well and get about 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:08.530 align:middle line:90% in Mackintosh and galoshes. 00:05:08.530 --> 00:05:12.130 align:middle line:84% Opening doors with gloved fingers. 00:05:12.130 --> 00:05:13.600 align:middle line:90% THOMAS: Until a week ago. 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.780 align:middle line:84% REDGROVE: A week ago it started sitting with us in the lounge. 00:05:16.780 --> 00:05:18.820 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:05:18.820 --> 00:05:23.200 align:middle line:84% And the electric fire had to be turned off as the windows kept 00:05:23.200 --> 00:05:24.310 align:middle line:90% on steaming up. 00:05:24.310 --> 00:05:29.300 align:middle line:90% 00:05:29.300 --> 00:05:33.450 align:middle line:84% It had accidentally included a goldfish in its body. 00:05:33.450 --> 00:05:35.750 align:middle line:84% And when the gargling goat swam up 00:05:35.750 --> 00:05:39.620 align:middle line:84% the crystal up the neck into the crystal clear head, 00:05:39.620 --> 00:05:43.400 align:middle line:84% it dipped its hand in and fumbled about 00:05:43.400 --> 00:05:46.910 align:middle line:90% with many ripples and grimaces. 00:05:46.910 --> 00:05:50.555 align:middle line:84% Plucked the fish out and offered it to my wife-- 00:05:50.555 --> 00:05:52.640 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:05:52.640 --> 00:05:55.490 align:middle line:90% with a polite nod. 00:05:55.490 --> 00:05:57.440 align:middle line:84% She was just about to go into the kitchen 00:05:57.440 --> 00:05:59.330 align:middle line:90% and cook the supper. 00:05:59.330 --> 00:06:02.480 align:middle line:84% But I explained quickly that goldfish 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:06.830 align:middle line:84% were very bitter to eat so he put it back. 00:06:06.830 --> 00:06:11.000 align:middle line:84% However, I was going to give him a big plate of ice cubes, which 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.920 align:middle line:84% he would have popped into his head 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.860 align:middle line:90% and enjoyed sucking like sweets. 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:20.120 align:middle line:84% Although, his real tipple is distilled water. 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:22.610 align:middle line:84% While we watch television, but he 00:06:22.610 --> 00:06:25.190 align:middle line:84% didn't seem to want anything, I suppose 00:06:25.190 --> 00:06:27.950 align:middle line:84% he thinks he's big enough already. 00:06:27.950 --> 00:06:31.220 align:middle line:84% THOMAS: Free board and lodging, eh? 00:06:31.220 --> 00:06:34.790 align:middle line:84% REDGROVE: I don't know what rent to charge him. 00:06:34.790 --> 00:06:37.700 align:middle line:84% I thought I might ask him to join the river for a spell 00:06:37.700 --> 00:06:40.910 align:middle line:84% and bring us back some of the money that abounds there, 00:06:40.910 --> 00:06:44.510 align:middle line:84% purses lost overboard from pleasure steamers rotting 00:06:44.510 --> 00:06:46.980 align:middle line:90% away in the mud and so forth. 00:06:46.980 --> 00:06:50.210 align:middle line:84% But he has grown very intolerant of dirt 00:06:50.210 --> 00:06:54.140 align:middle line:84% and might find it difficult to get clean again. 00:06:54.140 --> 00:06:57.650 align:middle line:84% Even worse, he might not be able to free himself 00:06:57.650 --> 00:07:02.570 align:middle line:84% from his rough dirty cousins, and he might come roaring back 00:07:02.570 --> 00:07:08.000 align:middle line:84% as an impossible green seething giant tall as the river 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:12.830 align:middle line:84% upended buckling into the sky and swamp us, 00:07:12.830 --> 00:07:15.260 align:middle line:90% and the whole village as well. 00:07:15.260 --> 00:07:19.010 align:middle line:84% I shudder to think, doctor, what would happen 00:07:19.010 --> 00:07:21.950 align:middle line:90% if he got as far as the sea? 00:07:21.950 --> 00:07:26.760 align:middle line:84% His spiritual home, the country would be in danger. 00:07:26.760 --> 00:07:32.630 align:middle line:84% I am at my wits' end for he is idle, and lounges 00:07:32.630 --> 00:07:35.210 align:middle line:90% about all day. 00:07:35.210 --> 00:07:37.070 align:middle line:84% THOMAS: Well, that's harmless enough. 00:07:37.070 --> 00:07:40.490 align:middle line:84% REDGROVE: No, if he's not lounging, 00:07:40.490 --> 00:07:44.100 align:middle line:84% he toys with his shape restlessly. 00:07:44.100 --> 00:07:48.000 align:middle line:90% 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.120 align:middle line:90% Stripping off his waterproof. 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:56.520 align:middle line:84% He's a charming doll's house of glass with doors and windows 00:07:56.520 --> 00:07:59.100 align:middle line:90% opening and shutting. 00:07:59.100 --> 00:08:05.490 align:middle line:84% He is a tree that thrusts up and fills the room. 00:08:05.490 --> 00:08:08.910 align:middle line:90% He is a terrifying shark-shape. 00:08:08.910 --> 00:08:12.060 align:middle line:84% The dots about between the legs of the furniture 00:08:12.060 --> 00:08:14.370 align:middle line:84% or lurks in the shadows of the room 00:08:14.370 --> 00:08:18.570 align:middle line:84% gleaming in the light of the television tube. 00:08:18.570 --> 00:08:24.690 align:middle line:84% He is a fountain that blooms without spilling a drop, 00:08:24.690 --> 00:08:28.350 align:middle line:84% or in this image constantly recurs. 00:08:28.350 --> 00:08:34.650 align:middle line:84% He is a very small man with a very large head and streaming 00:08:34.650 --> 00:08:41.110 align:middle line:84% eyes, who gazes mournfully up at my wife. 00:08:41.110 --> 00:08:45.580 align:middle line:84% She takes no notice and collapses suddenly 00:08:45.580 --> 00:08:49.780 align:middle line:84% into his tears with a sob and a gulp. 00:08:49.780 --> 00:08:54.220 align:middle line:84% Domestic, pastoral-phallic, maritime-ghastly, 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:58.180 align:middle line:84% stately-gracious or grotesque-pathetic. 00:08:58.180 --> 00:09:04.450 align:middle line:84% He rings the changes on a gamut of moods, showing off, 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:07.990 align:middle line:84% while I have to sit aside slumped 00:09:07.990 --> 00:09:12.880 align:middle line:84% in my armchair unable to compete. 00:09:12.880 --> 00:09:17.770 align:middle line:84% Reflecting what feats he may be able to accomplish 00:09:17.770 --> 00:09:21.850 align:middle line:90% in due course with his body. 00:09:21.850 --> 00:09:29.620 align:middle line:84% What titillating shapes impose, what exaggerated parts 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:33.120 align:middle line:90% deploy under his Mackintosh. 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.160 align:middle line:90% 00:09:36.160 --> 00:09:38.770 align:middle line:84% I dread the time, doctor, for it will 00:09:38.770 --> 00:09:46.060 align:middle line:84% come when I shall arrive home unexpectedly early 00:09:46.060 --> 00:09:52.120 align:middle line:84% and hear a sudden scuffle away in the waste pipes 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:58.240 align:middle line:84% and find my wife just out of the shower, dear. 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.607 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:10:01.607 --> 00:10:06.420 align:middle line:90% 00:10:06.420 --> 00:10:14.740 align:middle line:84% With that moist look in her eyes drying her hair 00:10:14.740 --> 00:10:17.890 align:middle line:84% and then to hear him swaggering in from the garden 00:10:17.890 --> 00:10:22.450 align:middle line:84% drains, talking loudly about his day's excursion 00:10:22.450 --> 00:10:25.870 align:middle line:84% as if nothing at all had been going on for he 00:10:25.870 --> 00:10:31.720 align:middle line:84% learns greater charm each day this Mr. Waterman. 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:36.790 align:middle line:84% And can be as stubborn as winter and gentle 00:10:36.790 --> 00:10:38.815 align:middle line:90% as the warm rains of spring. 00:10:38.815 --> 00:10:41.350 align:middle line:90% 00:10:41.350 --> 00:10:44.470 align:middle line:84% THOMAS: I should say that you have a real problem there, 00:10:44.470 --> 00:10:46.240 align:middle line:84% but it's too early for a solution 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:47.980 align:middle line:90% yet, until I know you better. 00:10:47.980 --> 00:10:50.590 align:middle line:84% Go away, take a week off in the office. 00:10:50.590 --> 00:10:53.450 align:middle line:84% Spend your time with your wife, relax, 00:10:53.450 --> 00:10:56.080 align:middle line:84% eat plenty of nourishing meals, plenty of sex 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.870 align:middle line:84% and sleep, then come and see me again. 00:10:58.870 --> 00:11:00.400 align:middle line:90% Good afternoon. 00:11:00.400 --> 00:11:02.260 align:middle line:90% The next patient, nurse. 00:11:02.260 --> 00:11:05.530 align:middle line:90% Oh, Mr. Waterman. 00:11:05.530 --> 00:11:07.300 align:middle line:90% Sit down, please. 00:11:07.300 --> 00:11:09.340 align:middle line:90% Does the gas fire trouble you? 00:11:09.340 --> 00:11:10.450 align:middle line:90% No? 00:11:10.450 --> 00:11:12.790 align:middle line:90% I can turn it off if you wish. 00:11:12.790 --> 00:11:16.150 align:middle line:84% Well, now we're quite private in here. 00:11:16.150 --> 00:11:18.670 align:middle line:90% You can tell me your troubles. 00:11:18.670 --> 00:11:25.330 align:middle line:84% A married, air-breathing woman, I think you said. 00:11:25.330 --> 00:11:28.680 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:11:28.680 --> 00:11:38.000 align:middle line:90%