WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.470 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.470 --> 00:00:05.400 align:middle line:84% Some years ago, when I was first a baby poet, 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:09.450 align:middle line:84% I was talking to an editor of a magazine, Paul Hoover, who, 00:00:09.450 --> 00:00:13.530 align:middle line:84% for some 30 years or more, has edited a magazine 00:00:13.530 --> 00:00:17.610 align:middle line:84% called New American Writing with his wife Maxine Chernoff. 00:00:17.610 --> 00:00:20.460 align:middle line:84% And he said in terms of what they were looking 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:22.350 align:middle line:84% for, he said we don't know what we're 00:00:22.350 --> 00:00:24.720 align:middle line:90% looking for until we find it. 00:00:24.720 --> 00:00:27.360 align:middle line:84% And for some reason I've never forgotten 00:00:27.360 --> 00:00:30.390 align:middle line:84% that because I think it really sums up 00:00:30.390 --> 00:00:33.180 align:middle line:84% both the problem and the opportunity 00:00:33.180 --> 00:00:36.390 align:middle line:84% that editors, and you as readers, and I as a reader, 00:00:36.390 --> 00:00:37.110 align:middle line:90% have. 00:00:37.110 --> 00:00:38.910 align:middle line:84% It's very hard to know in advance 00:00:38.910 --> 00:00:41.490 align:middle line:84% what we're going to be drawn to in poetry. 00:00:41.490 --> 00:00:44.850 align:middle line:84% And we can try to come up with some words, 00:00:44.850 --> 00:00:48.630 align:middle line:84% like a sense of imagination, or an interesting way 00:00:48.630 --> 00:00:49.890 align:middle line:90% to use language. 00:00:49.890 --> 00:00:54.390 align:middle line:84% But "interesting" is a word that differs to different people. 00:00:54.390 --> 00:00:57.600 align:middle line:90% And imagination, what is that? 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.380 align:middle line:84% I think that what people really want is to be surprised. 00:01:01.380 --> 00:01:05.129 align:middle line:84% And I think that's why what Paul Hoover said was exactly right. 00:01:05.129 --> 00:01:08.910 align:middle line:84% We don't know what we're looking for until we find it because we 00:01:08.910 --> 00:01:10.450 align:middle line:90% want to be surprised. 00:01:10.450 --> 00:01:13.980 align:middle line:84% So if we knew in advance, it wouldn't be a surprise. 00:01:13.980 --> 00:01:18.570 align:middle line:84% And there have been actually some scientific studies 00:01:18.570 --> 00:01:21.930 align:middle line:84% about babies as young as three months old 00:01:21.930 --> 00:01:26.440 align:middle line:84% and that they seem to like excess, like we all do. 00:01:26.440 --> 00:01:27.870 align:middle line:90% That's why we have Las Vegas. 00:01:27.870 --> 00:01:28.440 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHING] 00:01:28.440 --> 00:01:31.560 align:middle line:84% So if you give them two grids and, say, 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:36.480 align:middle line:84% one has eight red balls on it and another one has 32, 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.580 align:middle line:90% they'll look longer at the 32. 00:01:38.580 --> 00:01:40.740 align:middle line:90% So we assume they prefer it. 00:01:40.740 --> 00:01:42.840 align:middle line:84% We don't really know but we assume. 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.710 align:middle line:84% Unless they've been looking at the 32 for a long time and then 00:01:46.710 --> 00:01:48.090 align:middle line:90% you give them the six. 00:01:48.090 --> 00:01:50.040 align:middle line:84% Then they'll look at the six longer. 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:51.930 align:middle line:84% And it's because we like difference 00:01:51.930 --> 00:01:53.970 align:middle line:90% and we like surprise. 00:01:53.970 --> 00:01:56.460 align:middle line:84% So I don't know how many manuscripts 00:01:56.460 --> 00:02:00.540 align:middle line:84% were submitted for the Book Prize, the Levis Prize 00:02:00.540 --> 00:02:03.360 align:middle line:90% at Four Way Books in 2009. 00:02:03.360 --> 00:02:07.500 align:middle line:84% But as the judge, I received 100 of those. 00:02:07.500 --> 00:02:10.830 align:middle line:84% And out of those 100, there were three 00:02:10.830 --> 00:02:14.280 align:middle line:84% that deserved to sit on my dining room table. 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:18.000 align:middle line:84% And what that means is that every time I go by that table, 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.910 align:middle line:84% I sit down and I read some of the poems. 00:02:20.910 --> 00:02:25.740 align:middle line:84% And over time, the manuscript that I look forward to reading 00:02:25.740 --> 00:02:30.600 align:middle line:84% was Ephemeral Blinking Valentine by Joni Wallace. 00:02:30.600 --> 00:02:35.940 align:middle line:84% So I think that it's because the language was surprising. 00:02:35.940 --> 00:02:38.010 align:middle line:90% But it kept surprising. 00:02:38.010 --> 00:02:40.020 align:middle line:90% It never stopped surprising. 00:02:40.020 --> 00:02:43.380 align:middle line:84% And even those things about it, those rare things 00:02:43.380 --> 00:02:47.190 align:middle line:84% that should have annoyed me, like a poem about a snow 00:02:47.190 --> 00:02:50.310 align:middle line:84% globe in the shape of the snow globe, which should have 00:02:50.310 --> 00:02:52.740 align:middle line:90% been obvious, was my favorite. 00:02:52.740 --> 00:02:55.710 align:middle line:84% That made no sense, except it was so good. 00:02:55.710 --> 00:03:00.060 align:middle line:84% It did what it should have done and it did it like no one else 00:03:00.060 --> 00:03:00.910 align:middle line:90% could do it. 00:03:00.910 --> 00:03:03.030 align:middle line:90% And that's a surprise. 00:03:03.030 --> 00:03:06.150 align:middle line:84% So what I'm explaining, what I'm describing 00:03:06.150 --> 00:03:08.190 align:middle line:84% is a little bit like falling in love 00:03:08.190 --> 00:03:12.270 align:middle line:84% where those things that annoy you about anybody else, 00:03:12.270 --> 00:03:14.040 align:middle line:84% suddenly you either don't see them 00:03:14.040 --> 00:03:15.315 align:middle line:90% or you think they're charming. 00:03:15.315 --> 00:03:16.200 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHING] 00:03:16.200 --> 00:03:17.250 align:middle line:90% Which is crazy. 00:03:17.250 --> 00:03:19.260 align:middle line:84% And that's why I love is actually 00:03:19.260 --> 00:03:20.985 align:middle line:90% a psychological mental illness. 00:03:20.985 --> 00:03:23.920 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHING] 00:03:23.920 --> 00:03:26.700 align:middle line:84% So that's what happened with this manuscript 00:03:26.700 --> 00:03:29.310 align:middle line:90% I fell in love with it. 00:03:29.310 --> 00:03:31.920 align:middle line:84% It was beautiful every time I looked at it. 00:03:31.920 --> 00:03:35.610 align:middle line:84% And it made me happy, and it surprised me, 00:03:35.610 --> 00:03:37.770 align:middle line:90% and it never annoyed me. 00:03:37.770 --> 00:03:41.520 align:middle line:84% Joni Wallace in an interview once said, "To find language 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.410 align:middle line:90% adequate to experience." 00:03:43.410 --> 00:03:46.350 align:middle line:84% To show us things we need to know in a way 00:03:46.350 --> 00:03:49.410 align:middle line:84% that if we listen with the little brain in the ear, 00:03:49.410 --> 00:03:51.960 align:middle line:84% transcend the white noise of existence 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.260 align:middle line:84% and lead us into the world of terrible marvels, 00:03:55.260 --> 00:03:59.040 align:middle line:84% of joy and sorrow, and worse, the lack of. 00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:01.440 align:middle line:90% This is the work of poetry. 00:04:01.440 --> 00:04:04.125 align:middle line:84% The best poems give us a flashlight, or at least 00:04:04.125 --> 00:04:06.130 align:middle line:90% a glow in the dark bracelet. 00:04:06.130 --> 00:04:08.820 align:middle line:84% We may use to blink back a message 00:04:08.820 --> 00:04:13.860 align:middle line:84% or partially make out the dirigible or helicopter we're 00:04:13.860 --> 00:04:16.920 align:middle line:84% pretty sure is radioactive and floating over us 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.019 align:middle line:90% like a birthday balloon. 00:04:19.019 --> 00:04:20.490 align:middle line:90% This work did that. 00:04:20.490 --> 00:04:24.360 align:middle line:84% In the end, the other two manuscripts ceased to exist. 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.240 align:middle line:84% I read this one over and over and I still do. 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.270 align:middle line:84% Every time I begin to read it, I can't stop. 00:04:30.270 --> 00:04:32.970 align:middle line:84% And I'm sure the same will be true for you. 00:04:32.970 --> 00:04:37.080 align:middle line:84% Joni Wallace grew up in Los Alamos, New Mexico, 00:04:37.080 --> 00:04:40.630 align:middle line:84% and earned her MFA from the University of Montana. 00:04:40.630 --> 00:04:44.100 align:middle line:84% She's the author of a chap book entitled Red Shift published 00:04:44.100 --> 00:04:47.400 align:middle line:90% by Kore Press in 2001. 00:04:47.400 --> 00:04:50.520 align:middle line:84% Her manuscript Blinking Ephemeral Valentine, 00:04:50.520 --> 00:04:54.630 align:middle line:84% which was selected as the 2009 Levis Prize winner, 00:04:54.630 --> 00:04:57.360 align:middle line:84% was published this year by Four Way books. 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.340 align:middle line:84% She lives in Tucson and is currently 00:04:59.340 --> 00:05:02.946 align:middle line:84% working on a series of the poems that are haunted by deer. 00:05:02.946 --> 00:05:04.530 align:middle line:90% I give you Joni Wallace. 00:05:04.530 --> 00:05:07.880 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:05:07.880 --> 00:05:14.000 align:middle line:90%