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This question is for,
I guess, Cecilia,

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but also I'm interested in how
it connects with the Trayvon

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Martin videos that we saw.

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I was wondering if we could
think about the medium and what

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effect that might have on how
you're treating the subject.

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Like, you said
that pulling things

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that have already happened.

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Pulling that forward, bringing
that back, and making it sort

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of present and contemporary.

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And at the same time,
I was wondering,

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how does that work
with making a film?

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Versus, Cecilia.

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Your piece, it's improvisation.

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You're working from a
script, but at the same time,

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you're talking, you're
commenting, on the audience.

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You're interacting with us.

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So I was wondering
about the differences

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between film and
improvisation and that idea?

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But both of you seem to be
really interested in making

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history present,
palpable, something

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that can be manipulated.

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You go first.

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I'm thinking, so you go.

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OK.

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Yeah, I will not
speak about film--

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even though I also do film--

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because I would like for Claudia
to take care of that part.

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But about the
improvisation decision--

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isn't it a beautiful word?

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"Visation" is visualize,
and "im" is the improbable,

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so it's like seeing
the improbable.

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And where is it?

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It's nowhere to be
seen until it happens,

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so it's actually happening
for you to be part of.

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So it's like where is
our act taking place?

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Is it in the past, in the
present, or the future?

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Just before coming here, I
was watching this really bad,

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discovery, scientific film.

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And there was a
discovery that has

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been made in quantum physics
that confirms a discovery that

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has been made first
in neuroscience, which

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is that all living organisms,
starting from unicellular

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beings, have this
anticipatory capacity.

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Because information is
coming from the future.

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And so improvisation
is really coming

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from the future for what
can be if you let it be.

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So where is it?

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And that is the feeling I
seek when I come into a room

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where there is this precious
presence of everybody,

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this togetherness.

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And when I arrived here,
there was a little homage

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to Stacy Doris, so I included
some of the lines by Stacy.

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I hope you noticed.

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And she has this
profound meditation

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on the eye that is plural,
and on the west, she says.

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And I thought, so beautiful, and
so I wanted to bring that in.

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The medium of film is,
by nature, collaborative.

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And because it's
collaborative, it

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means that you are always
improvising with the people

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you're working with.

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There's no straight
arrow in terms

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of intention and execution.

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So for instance,
in this film, I was

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really interested in using
President Obama's statement

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that, "This could
be a son of mine,"

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and also the actual target.

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And my husband said, No.

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He was not interested in
replicating that moment.

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And I said, Well, I
bet you a lot of people

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haven't seen that moment.

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And he said, I don't care.

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I don't want to
replicate that moment.

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And I said, Well, maybe
we could just put it

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in, and see and take it out--

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[LAUGHTER]

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--if it's not working.

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But he is in control
of what goes in,

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because he does the technical
stuff, so it never goes.

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[LAUGHTER]

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The men that are in,
those are all, actually,

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Pomona students and
Pitzer students.

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And it was interesting
when we were

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at the sneaker store, which had
a lot of hoodies in that store.

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We had asked these guys
if they would show up,

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and they were supposed
to show up at 7 o'clock,

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because the guy who owned
the store said we could

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film in the store at 7 o'clock.

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And at 7:05, I thought,
What if none of them come?

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And then we began to see
them on the street coming

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from different directions.

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And then once they
got in the store,

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we didn't tell them
to do anything.

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We just said,
Here's some hoodies.

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Here's some sneakers.

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Here's a store.

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Go in there, and we're
going to film you.

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And then, two of them were
friends, and two more friends,

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and one of them knew some--

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and it was just interesting to
see how they would interact.

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So I think, partly, you say,
We need you to go in there

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and try on some hoodies.

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But then that's it.

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Then they do what they want.

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Yeah, so it's the medium, but
it's full of chance in a sense.

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[LOUD SNEEZE]

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Ooh!

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Bless you.

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