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[APPLAUSE]

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I want to bring you with me.

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Yeah.

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[LAUGHTER]

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After hearing from Mary
Magdalene, who I love--

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isn't she just so interesting?

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I want to read you a few poems
from A Life of Mary, which

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is in this last book.

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Mary, as a woman, person,
is very interesting to me.

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Mary, Jesus's mother, not
Mary the Virgin, or the person

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who had been created
by the Church Fathers.

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But the feminine Mary,
before she was a mother.

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The woman, like us,
who existentially

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lived on the earth.

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Meister Eckhart said a
great thing about Mary.

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He said many great things.

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But he said a great
thing about Mary.

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He said, perhaps Jesus is the
fruit of Mary's enlightenment.

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Shazam.

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Shall I say it again?

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Perhaps Jesus is the fruit
of Mary's enlightenment.

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Doesn't that just feel true,
as soon as you hear it?

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And the second thing he said--
he said dozens of things--

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but the other great thing he
said, according to me, is--

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and this is what would have
gotten him burned at the stake,

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except he died, before--

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he said, perhaps, we can, each
of us, be the mother of God.

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Each of us can be
the mother of God.

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This is Mary talking before
anything had happened to her.

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Maybe some intimations.

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Drax knows this.

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I grew up--

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I was the oldest child, the
oldest girl of a big family.

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And I wrote Christmas plays
for my brothers and sisters

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to be in, which they hated.

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And I'm still doing
it, obviously.

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But they were so adorable.

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Little kids with washcloths on
their heads, and rubber bands.

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[LAUGHTER]

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It's really cute.

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Little shepherds.

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These are loose
sonnets, so forgive me,

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any technicians in the room.

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Sometimes the moon sat
in the well at night.

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And when I stirred it
with a stick, it broke.

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If I kept stirring, it
swirled like whitewater,

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as if water were light,
and the stick a wand that

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made the light follow,
then slow into water again,

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unwobbling, until
the wind moved it.

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And I thought of all
the moons, floating

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in the wells and rivers,
spilling over rocks,

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where the water broke.

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Moons in the sheep
water, the chicken water.

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Or here, or there, an
ore bent it, or a woman

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spread out her skirt,
and let it pool there.

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The light, I mean.

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Not the moon in a circle, not
the moon itself, but the light

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that fell from it.

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