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>> Actually I'll do this in a second.

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Leemos este primero y después
pongo la explosión del tema.

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>> Okay. ¿Quieres hablar desde el tuyo?

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Yo te interpreto si quieres.

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>> Quise empezar, después de Negro Marfil, fue
tan fuerte para mí utilizar colores, manchas,

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tintas, que pronto quise dar un salto hacia
otras formas de comunicación con el poema.

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>> So I wanted to begin, after writing Negro
Marfil, after all of the black and white

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of Negro Marfil, and all of the colors that
existed in that book, I wanted to make a leap

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into another form of producing work.

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>> Y este fue uno de los primeros
que hice como poesía visual.

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>> So this is one of the first pieces
I made as a form of visual poetry.

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>> Y es algo muy sencillo, es una
tela verde, un velo, un velo verde.

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>> So it's very simple, it's a
green cloth, a veil, a green veil.

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>> Y una vez que visité a Jen en su casa
en Los Ángeles, le regalé uno de estos.

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>> So on one time I was visiting
Jen at her house in Los Angeles,

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I have her one of these as a gift.

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>> Y ella enloqueció y se puso a
hacer toda la ultra traducción.

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>> And she went crazy and she
started to make an ultra translation.

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>> Es muy simple lo que dice.

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>> It's very simple what it says.

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>> Ver verde.

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Ver de verlo.

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Velo verde.

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Velar al verde.

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Ve lo verde, de verdad velo.

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[ Laughter ]

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[ Applause ]

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>> Ok. So, I'm on it.

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And this is going to magically work

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because I told it to. Take
your time, I love PCs, it's good.

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So, ok. So my vision is that
that is going to apply.

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Yes. Oh my gosh.

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Look at that.

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Ok, let me see if I can actually make
this, is there a way to make it go down, like --

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If someone about can come and help
me to make this actually function.

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What I want is to show them what the poem looks like.

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Thank you, Patri.

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Is there a way to pull down the bottom--

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So, ok, that's - this is the poem that
Myriam just read, and then if you keep going

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down a little bit, I'm going to
- Can you make it--make you stay up here with me?

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Muchísimas gracias.

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Ok. So, si vas más para abajo.

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So in a - If you're translators, we
have a thing called the trot,

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don't know why it's called the trot,
it is an exploded version of the poem

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with like all the possible
dictionary definitions.

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It's not a poem, it's just like - here's all
the different things these words might say.

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So I thought I would illustrate
that for you, and then I'm going

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to read you my ultra translations of this poem.

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And then JP and I are going
to do an experiment in that.

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Ok. Can you keep going down?

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So if you keep going into the file
you can see all of the different things

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that Myriam is doing with this poem.

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"Ver" means "to see."

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"Verde" means "green," but it also 
sonically contains the word "to see."

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"ver de verlo."

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So we can just leave it there, we don't
need to go through the whole thing.

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Thank you.

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But you can see a little bit here how
completely not translatable this work is.

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Do you want to be set free to go sit down?

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You can. So I made a tiny book
with some transportaciones

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of Myriam's poem, and they go like this.

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To see green.

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To see she green.

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Sheer green.

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To shear the green see sheer green.

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Really she sheer.

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Red read. Read it red.

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I tread red.

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To tread to read.

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It read red.

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Really tread.

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Light a light.

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To light a light alight a light.

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Lighting the light a light alighted.

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Always to alight.

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Light is light.

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To light is light.

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A slight light.

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To slight the light is light a light.

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Right I slight.

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To see the sea see the seeing.

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Seethe the sea.

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Seething sea see the sea.

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Sincerely see the.