WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.980 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.980 --> 00:00:02.750 align:middle line:90% Tony Hoagland. 00:00:02.750 --> 00:00:06.180 align:middle line:90% [AUDIENCE APPLAUSE] 00:00:06.180 --> 00:00:20.880 align:middle line:90% 00:00:20.880 --> 00:00:23.250 align:middle line:84% I didn't expect to be second in the room. 00:00:23.250 --> 00:00:24.200 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:00:24.200 --> 00:00:26.100 align:middle line:90% 00:00:26.100 --> 00:00:32.200 align:middle line:84% Well, I was one of many people who were Steve's devoted boy 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.780 align:middle line:90% students. 00:00:33.780 --> 00:00:39.780 align:middle line:84% And it, as Buzz's introduction sort of would indicate, 00:00:39.780 --> 00:00:43.170 align:middle line:84% it might come as something of a surprise 00:00:43.170 --> 00:00:47.760 align:middle line:84% and provoke laughter to hear that I 00:00:47.760 --> 00:00:52.570 align:middle line:84% learned a lot about being a grown up from Steve. 00:00:52.570 --> 00:00:54.930 align:middle line:84% In fact, I learned a lot about manners 00:00:54.930 --> 00:00:57.540 align:middle line:84% from Steve, which I had not learned. 00:00:57.540 --> 00:01:01.265 align:middle line:84% The first time I said this years and years ago at a reading 00:01:01.265 --> 00:01:02.640 align:middle line:84% a bunch of people in the audience 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.290 align:middle line:84% just broke into spontaneous laughter. 00:01:04.290 --> 00:01:05.568 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:01:05.568 --> 00:01:06.420 align:middle line:90% 00:01:06.420 --> 00:01:07.560 align:middle line:90% But I did. 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.230 align:middle line:84% He taught me things that I had not learned about-- 00:01:10.230 --> 00:01:12.540 align:middle line:84% about how to be attentive to other people, 00:01:12.540 --> 00:01:16.830 align:middle line:84% and what to say when someone said this, you say this. 00:01:16.830 --> 00:01:20.425 align:middle line:90% And you know, decorum. 00:01:20.425 --> 00:01:21.800 align:middle line:84% Now we all know that he might not 00:01:21.800 --> 00:01:25.455 align:middle line:84% have perfectly, flawlessly implemented these skills-- 00:01:25.455 --> 00:01:27.420 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:01:27.420 --> 00:01:32.130 align:middle line:84% --consistently in his life, but he often did. 00:01:32.130 --> 00:01:36.450 align:middle line:90% And so those were great lessons. 00:01:36.450 --> 00:01:39.540 align:middle line:84% I also want to say that I learned a lot about friendship 00:01:39.540 --> 00:01:41.550 align:middle line:90% from him. 00:01:41.550 --> 00:01:45.690 align:middle line:84% And just to say a couple of the things that I learned from him, 00:01:45.690 --> 00:01:49.170 align:middle line:84% I was a graduate student here in the '70s 00:01:49.170 --> 00:01:52.050 align:middle line:84% when Steve and Jon Anderson were both teachers here. 00:01:52.050 --> 00:01:53.550 align:middle line:90% And there was a-- 00:01:53.550 --> 00:01:57.420 align:middle line:84% because of their intimacy, their really deep friendship, 00:01:57.420 --> 00:01:58.830 align:middle line:90% in a way-- 00:01:58.830 --> 00:02:01.770 align:middle line:84% it was a phenomenon I noticed while we were here was that-- 00:02:01.770 --> 00:02:04.380 align:middle line:84% was it the men in the program, or the boys 00:02:04.380 --> 00:02:07.230 align:middle line:84% in the program, the boy men in the program, 00:02:07.230 --> 00:02:13.920 align:middle line:84% that we were able to form really deep bonds and intimacies which 00:02:13.920 --> 00:02:19.230 align:middle line:84% were based on vulnerability, and confession, and friendship 00:02:19.230 --> 00:02:22.530 align:middle line:84% in a way that was very uncommon, I think. 00:02:22.530 --> 00:02:25.800 align:middle line:84% And it was a consequence of that atmosphere 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.760 align:middle line:84% that Steve carried around with him. 00:02:29.760 --> 00:02:32.760 align:middle line:84% I also learned a lot about being a poet from him. 00:02:32.760 --> 00:02:34.860 align:middle line:84% And mainly, one of the many things 00:02:34.860 --> 00:02:38.130 align:middle line:84% is just to continue working and to love the work. 00:02:38.130 --> 00:02:41.160 align:middle line:84% I watched him teach himself over and over again. 00:02:41.160 --> 00:02:45.690 align:middle line:84% I watched him think that he had failed over and over again. 00:02:45.690 --> 00:02:47.580 align:middle line:84% And just continue to go to his office 00:02:47.580 --> 00:02:49.980 align:middle line:84% every morning, where I knew I could call him 00:02:49.980 --> 00:02:53.220 align:middle line:84% at 9 o'clock any morning from anywhere in the country. 00:02:53.220 --> 00:02:54.030 align:middle line:90% I would call him. 00:02:54.030 --> 00:02:56.038 align:middle line:84% And he would be at his office working. 00:02:56.038 --> 00:02:57.330 align:middle line:90% And we would talk about poetry. 00:02:57.330 --> 00:02:59.880 align:middle line:90% And I miss him deeply. 00:02:59.880 --> 00:03:05.370 align:middle line:84% But I also celebrate the beauty and the grace with which 00:03:05.370 --> 00:03:07.380 align:middle line:90% he died and the honesty. 00:03:07.380 --> 00:03:10.170 align:middle line:90% And that's enough for me. 00:03:10.170 --> 00:03:12.000 align:middle line:84% But I'll always be grateful to him. 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.280 align:middle line:84% And I talk to him in my head all the time. 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:16.740 align:middle line:84% This is a poem of his, a short poem 00:03:16.740 --> 00:03:20.250 align:middle line:84% called "The advantages of the barbarians." 00:03:20.250 --> 00:03:21.810 align:middle line:84% And it's about the forgotten people 00:03:21.810 --> 00:03:24.605 align:middle line:84% in history, which will make a lot of sense 00:03:24.605 --> 00:03:26.730 align:middle line:84% to those of you who knew him, and his preoccupation 00:03:26.730 --> 00:03:30.690 align:middle line:84% with genealogy, and history, and his humility, 00:03:30.690 --> 00:03:34.440 align:middle line:84% and modesty about the unimportance 00:03:34.440 --> 00:03:35.910 align:middle line:90% of any single human being. 00:03:35.910 --> 00:03:42.450 align:middle line:84% I think he had a really unusual lack of egotism for a poet. 00:03:42.450 --> 00:03:45.538 align:middle line:84% "The advantages of the barbarians," and it's 00:03:45.538 --> 00:03:49.740 align:middle line:84% written in really long fluent sentences 00:03:49.740 --> 00:03:53.040 align:middle line:84% that he was such an extraordinarily good writer of. 00:03:53.040 --> 00:03:56.760 align:middle line:84% "The advantages of the barbarians." 00:03:56.760 --> 00:04:00.990 align:middle line:84% "I had been reading history and gotten lost. 00:04:00.990 --> 00:04:07.230 align:middle line:84% So I took my glasses off and saw not the eras described, 00:04:07.230 --> 00:04:11.100 align:middle line:84% their list of terrible events, but the moments 00:04:11.100 --> 00:04:16.950 align:middle line:84% shrunken and passed over in footnotes with their asides 00:04:16.950 --> 00:04:20.190 align:middle line:90% that tease the imagination. 00:04:20.190 --> 00:04:24.300 align:middle line:84% Not the great rivers, but the drowned, dragged out of a river 00:04:24.300 --> 00:04:30.120 align:middle line:84% into my little room, where they mill around and complain. 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:34.260 align:middle line:84% Not the ancient map, but that dip between mountains 00:04:34.260 --> 00:04:38.970 align:middle line:84% so narrow that the cartographers overlooked it 00:04:38.970 --> 00:04:41.370 align:middle line:90% on their lunch break. 00:04:41.370 --> 00:04:43.050 align:middle line:90% And there they are. 00:04:43.050 --> 00:04:47.970 align:middle line:84% That one man and that one woman overlooked by history, 00:04:47.970 --> 00:04:53.350 align:middle line:84% because when they how rocky fields they're so tiny. 00:04:53.350 --> 00:04:55.320 align:middle line:84% And when they sleep in their straw 00:04:55.320 --> 00:04:59.850 align:middle line:90% mats they forget who they are." 00:04:59.850 --> 00:05:03.200 align:middle line:90% [AUDIENCE APPLAUSE] 00:05:03.200 --> 00:05:05.280 align:middle line:90%