WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.640 align:middle line:90% 00:00:04.640 --> 00:00:05.360 align:middle line:90% Michael Carter. 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:13.570 align:middle line:90% 00:00:13.570 --> 00:00:19.790 align:middle line:84% Well, Steve had some unorthodox methods of teaching. 00:00:19.790 --> 00:00:25.870 align:middle line:84% And we were packing up some of the books in his office 00:00:25.870 --> 00:00:26.680 align:middle line:90% this afternoon. 00:00:26.680 --> 00:00:29.770 align:middle line:84% And in putting the books away, I remembered 00:00:29.770 --> 00:00:33.430 align:middle line:84% even before I was a student in the program, 00:00:33.430 --> 00:00:34.720 align:middle line:90% I was living here in Tucson. 00:00:34.720 --> 00:00:38.530 align:middle line:84% And I had met Steve through a mutual friend. 00:00:38.530 --> 00:00:40.480 align:middle line:84% And one day, he and Jon Anderson 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:42.670 align:middle line:90% came over to my apartment. 00:00:42.670 --> 00:00:45.640 align:middle line:84% I was living on 12th Street by the plasma donor 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:48.520 align:middle line:90% center over there. 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:50.230 align:middle line:84% And Steve at that time, Steve and Gail 00:00:50.230 --> 00:00:52.285 align:middle line:84% were living just a few blocks away. 00:00:52.285 --> 00:00:55.090 align:middle line:90% 00:00:55.090 --> 00:00:57.250 align:middle line:84% Steve and Jon came into my room, my bedroom, 00:00:57.250 --> 00:01:02.080 align:middle line:84% and they started pulling books out of my shelves 00:01:02.080 --> 00:01:04.360 align:middle line:90% and piling them up. 00:01:04.360 --> 00:01:08.770 align:middle line:84% And after they had gone through it, they pointed to the books. 00:01:08.770 --> 00:01:11.530 align:middle line:84% And they said, now you're never allowed to read those again. 00:01:11.530 --> 00:01:14.260 align:middle line:90% 00:01:14.260 --> 00:01:18.700 align:middle line:84% They were books like Donald Davey and Yvor Winters. 00:01:18.700 --> 00:01:28.280 align:middle line:84% They were putting a ban on these writers for a time, 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.880 align:middle line:84% I thought that I would read something 00:01:30.880 --> 00:01:34.900 align:middle line:90% from one of Steve's letters. 00:01:34.900 --> 00:01:39.070 align:middle line:84% So in 1999, a few weeks before Steve and I 00:01:39.070 --> 00:01:41.290 align:middle line:84% were to teach together at Warren Wilson College, 00:01:41.290 --> 00:01:44.440 align:middle line:84% he sent me a letter in which he described 00:01:44.440 --> 00:01:49.030 align:middle line:84% the importance of having at least one intimate friend 00:01:49.030 --> 00:01:54.200 align:middle line:84% to pal around with during the residency, 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.860 align:middle line:84% so that every once in a while they could get deeper 00:01:56.860 --> 00:01:58.120 align:middle line:90% into friendship. 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.750 align:middle line:90% 00:02:00.750 --> 00:02:07.170 align:middle line:84% He offered this as an example of the deeper friendship, quote, 00:02:07.170 --> 00:02:12.450 align:middle line:84% "one late night last residency with Tony. 00:02:12.450 --> 00:02:16.650 align:middle line:84% And I'm in my chair, and he's sitting 00:02:16.650 --> 00:02:21.010 align:middle line:84% cross-legged on my bed in his long johns. 00:02:21.010 --> 00:02:24.070 align:middle line:84% On his head, a bright yellow t-shirt 00:02:24.070 --> 00:02:28.330 align:middle line:84% tied up to stay put, not like an Arab headdress, 00:02:28.330 --> 00:02:33.340 align:middle line:90% but like a what? 00:02:33.340 --> 00:02:37.930 align:middle line:90% A clown hat or something-- 00:02:37.930 --> 00:02:42.430 align:middle line:84% I laughed at him and he said in his defining, factual, 00:02:42.430 --> 00:02:48.100 align:middle line:84% defending, self-laughing way, that bald people lose 00:02:48.100 --> 00:02:50.410 align:middle line:84% most of their body heat through their heads. 00:02:50.410 --> 00:02:56.530 align:middle line:90% 00:02:56.530 --> 00:03:03.450 align:middle line:84% I tell you, I love friendship more than anything in life." 00:03:03.450 --> 00:03:08.310 align:middle line:90%