WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.370 align:middle line:90% 00:00:01.370 --> 00:00:03.770 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mei mei So the authors 00:00:03.770 --> 00:00:05.090 align:middle line:90% will take some questions now. 00:00:05.090 --> 00:00:07.800 align:middle line:84% We have a mic which I can pass around. 00:00:07.800 --> 00:00:09.960 align:middle line:84% So if you have questions for the authors. 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:30.470 align:middle line:90% 00:00:30.470 --> 00:00:34.530 align:middle line:84% This question is directed for Alice. 00:00:34.530 --> 00:00:36.180 align:middle line:84% As you were reading, I was really 00:00:36.180 --> 00:00:40.570 align:middle line:84% drawn to the quickness of your delivery, 00:00:40.570 --> 00:00:43.210 align:middle line:84% particularly in the first piece that you read, 00:00:43.210 --> 00:00:45.270 align:middle line:84% which seemed to create this sort of heightened 00:00:45.270 --> 00:00:48.120 align:middle line:90% sense of emotional urgency. 00:00:48.120 --> 00:00:50.430 align:middle line:84% And I wonder, for those readers who are picking up 00:00:50.430 --> 00:00:53.340 align:middle line:84% your work for the first time who aren't 00:00:53.340 --> 00:00:55.710 align:middle line:84% in this sort of intimate arena in which 00:00:55.710 --> 00:01:00.120 align:middle line:84% the rich aural qualities of your work come across, 00:01:00.120 --> 00:01:06.450 align:middle line:84% if you intend for them to have the same experience of speed, 00:01:06.450 --> 00:01:09.090 align:middle line:84% does it matter how the work is read? 00:01:09.090 --> 00:01:15.150 align:middle line:84% And what sort of visual cues do you rely on, typographical 00:01:15.150 --> 00:01:18.615 align:middle line:84% or spatial, to sort of create that sense of pacing? 00:01:18.615 --> 00:01:27.490 align:middle line:90% 00:01:27.490 --> 00:01:31.570 align:middle line:84% What you need to do is look at the book. 00:01:31.570 --> 00:01:33.888 align:middle line:84% It's a very particular book and it's arranged 00:01:33.888 --> 00:01:34.930 align:middle line:90% in a very particular way. 00:01:34.930 --> 00:01:36.790 align:middle line:84% The words are very close together 00:01:36.790 --> 00:01:40.670 align:middle line:84% and I think you're forced to read it fast on the page. 00:01:40.670 --> 00:01:45.580 align:middle line:84% I don't know if you would necessarily 00:01:45.580 --> 00:01:49.450 align:middle line:84% feel the same kinds of emotion that I was conveying, 00:01:49.450 --> 00:01:51.460 align:middle line:84% and I don't know if I would convey the same ones 00:01:51.460 --> 00:01:53.980 align:middle line:90% every single time. 00:01:53.980 --> 00:01:56.850 align:middle line:84% Because it makes-- each performance is different, 00:01:56.850 --> 00:01:59.680 align:middle line:84% and different kinds of shapes get made every time. 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:02.920 align:middle line:84% But in this book, this book is trying 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.430 align:middle line:84% to replicate the mind in action partly, 00:02:06.430 --> 00:02:10.150 align:middle line:84% and partly, it's being something like a Byzantine church 00:02:10.150 --> 00:02:12.520 align:middle line:90% with mosaics and icons in it. 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:17.920 align:middle line:84% And the words break apart because they're like pieces. 00:02:17.920 --> 00:02:19.060 align:middle line:90% They're like pieces. 00:02:19.060 --> 00:02:20.920 align:middle line:90% They're like mosaic pieces. 00:02:20.920 --> 00:02:25.480 align:middle line:84% And the conception is very intricate. 00:02:25.480 --> 00:02:27.910 align:middle line:90% But it's a particular book. 00:02:27.910 --> 00:02:28.750 align:middle line:90% It's a special book. 00:02:28.750 --> 00:02:32.740 align:middle line:84% And you have to look at the book to find out what I'm doing. 00:02:32.740 --> 00:02:33.610 align:middle line:90% Does that answer it? 00:02:33.610 --> 00:02:45.020 align:middle line:90% 00:02:45.020 --> 00:02:49.190 align:middle line:84% I have a question for Alice, and a question for Mei Mei Alice, 00:02:49.190 --> 00:02:58.610 align:middle line:84% I'm wondering if you would talk about your writing process. 00:02:58.610 --> 00:03:04.160 align:middle line:84% I certainly experienced your poems as, as you say, 00:03:04.160 --> 00:03:10.040 align:middle line:84% replicating the mind in action, and it's so interesting 00:03:10.040 --> 00:03:11.225 align:middle line:90% to try to wonder about. 00:03:11.225 --> 00:03:13.930 align:middle line:90% 00:03:13.930 --> 00:03:17.740 align:middle line:84% It feels as though your writing is the mind in action 00:03:17.740 --> 00:03:21.620 align:middle line:84% and there is no replication involved. 00:03:21.620 --> 00:03:26.080 align:middle line:84% So I just wonder if you can talk about your experience. 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.090 align:middle line:90% You can't do the mind. 00:03:28.090 --> 00:03:29.770 align:middle line:90% You always end up making art. 00:03:29.770 --> 00:03:31.340 align:middle line:90% And that was what I did. 00:03:31.340 --> 00:03:35.050 align:middle line:90% 00:03:35.050 --> 00:03:37.840 align:middle line:84% Prosody takes over, some form of prosody, 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:40.000 align:middle line:84% and you're inside that, and I'm not 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.220 align:middle line:90% sure the mind has that at all. 00:03:42.220 --> 00:03:45.160 align:middle line:84% But on the other hand, I don't know what the mind is, 00:03:45.160 --> 00:03:46.600 align:middle line:84% and I don't know what writing is, 00:03:46.600 --> 00:03:49.930 align:middle line:84% and they're not very separate from each other 00:03:49.930 --> 00:03:53.050 align:middle line:84% when you're the mind doing the writing. 00:03:53.050 --> 00:03:54.610 align:middle line:90% I wrote very, very-- 00:03:54.610 --> 00:03:56.560 align:middle line:90% it was composed on the computer. 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:57.970 align:middle line:90% I wrote it very fast. 00:03:57.970 --> 00:03:59.860 align:middle line:90% I was wondering about the pace. 00:03:59.860 --> 00:04:00.440 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:04:00.440 --> 00:04:00.940 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:04:00.940 --> 00:04:07.750 align:middle line:84% And I started with a dream image usually and wrote very fast, 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:08.950 align:middle line:90% as fast as I could. 00:04:08.950 --> 00:04:11.050 align:middle line:84% And then that was one day, and then the next day, 00:04:11.050 --> 00:04:12.730 align:middle line:90% I would shape it. 00:04:12.730 --> 00:04:16.149 align:middle line:84% It's in stanzaic shapes based on the number six, 00:04:16.149 --> 00:04:18.550 align:middle line:84% which is the magic number for the Byzantines. 00:04:18.550 --> 00:04:19.690 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:04:19.690 --> 00:04:20.620 align:middle line:90% Good to know. 00:04:20.620 --> 00:04:21.430 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:04:21.430 --> 00:04:23.129 align:middle line:90% You're welcome.