WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.009 align:middle line:90% 00:00:02.009 --> 00:00:05.610 align:middle line:84% The last two poems that I want to read 00:00:05.610 --> 00:00:09.510 align:middle line:84% are quite different from anything 00:00:09.510 --> 00:00:12.070 align:middle line:90% that I've read until now. 00:00:12.070 --> 00:00:18.850 align:middle line:84% And they are a whole different kind of a poem altogether. 00:00:18.850 --> 00:00:19.500 align:middle line:90% Each of them. 00:00:19.500 --> 00:00:24.107 align:middle line:90% 00:00:24.107 --> 00:00:26.190 align:middle line:84% I don't know whether to say too much or too little 00:00:26.190 --> 00:00:29.740 align:middle line:90% is better about them. 00:00:29.740 --> 00:00:31.620 align:middle line:84% The first of them anyway is a kind of poem 00:00:31.620 --> 00:00:35.220 align:middle line:84% that critics love to hold up and wave 00:00:35.220 --> 00:00:37.650 align:middle line:84% and say it's a dramatic monologue. 00:00:37.650 --> 00:00:40.020 align:middle line:90% It's not. 00:00:40.020 --> 00:00:45.720 align:middle line:84% There's a central figure in it and the poem it's-- 00:00:45.720 --> 00:00:50.880 align:middle line:84% that central figure in some respect becoming articulate 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:52.290 align:middle line:90% rather than speaking. 00:00:52.290 --> 00:00:56.100 align:middle line:84% The poem is a kind of verbal emanation from this person 00:00:56.100 --> 00:00:59.490 align:middle line:84% and it doesn't have the grammar of it, 00:00:59.490 --> 00:01:06.000 align:middle line:84% is not the grammar of dramatic and logical and ostensibly 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.030 align:middle line:90% rational speech. 00:01:09.030 --> 00:01:13.080 align:middle line:84% The figure in it is the New Testament figure of Pilate 00:01:13.080 --> 00:01:14.670 align:middle line:90% but it's also every one of us. 00:01:14.670 --> 00:01:17.220 align:middle line:90% 00:01:17.220 --> 00:01:22.080 align:middle line:84% And what he's speaking about is in a moral as well as 00:01:22.080 --> 00:01:23.760 align:middle line:90% a linguistic sense language. 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.740 align:middle line:90% What one says. 00:01:25.740 --> 00:01:29.220 align:middle line:84% Where one is and what is said to one, what the world says. 00:01:29.220 --> 00:01:33.360 align:middle line:84% And that's a betrayal of the poem 00:01:33.360 --> 00:01:38.730 align:middle line:84% because it's a crass oversimplification of what 00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:40.170 align:middle line:90% he's really talking about. 00:01:40.170 --> 00:01:42.480 align:middle line:84% But I'm giving you some kind of clue 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.540 align:middle line:84% so that you're not lost by the strangeness of the poem, 00:01:45.540 --> 00:01:48.395 align:middle line:90% I hope. 00:01:48.395 --> 00:01:48.895 align:middle line:90% "Pilate." 00:01:48.895 --> 00:01:52.640 align:middle line:90% 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:54.170 align:middle line:84% It has a life of its own, however 00:01:54.170 --> 00:01:57.020 align:middle line:84% long it served pharaoh, and so a heaven of its own 00:01:57.020 --> 00:01:59.360 align:middle line:84% to which its own blood calls which 00:01:59.360 --> 00:02:02.270 align:middle line:84% should be heard with respect when they call crucify, 00:02:02.270 --> 00:02:04.400 align:middle line:90% crucify him of its own. 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.710 align:middle line:84% Why should you not see it unless it is walking arm 00:02:06.710 --> 00:02:12.270 align:middle line:84% and arm with objects which you think you can see without it. 00:02:12.270 --> 00:02:16.310 align:middle line:84% When low empire itself is not visible. 00:02:16.310 --> 00:02:18.410 align:middle line:84% And a future of its own, the prophecy 00:02:18.410 --> 00:02:20.780 align:middle line:84% is waking without names and strange lands 00:02:20.780 --> 00:02:23.960 align:middle line:84% on unborn tongues those syllables resurrected, 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:27.500 align:middle line:90% staring is that heaven? 00:02:27.500 --> 00:02:31.280 align:middle line:84% All the pain to find its hands again old. 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:33.830 align:middle line:84% But you must not suppose that because of the centurions' 00:02:33.830 --> 00:02:36.800 align:middle line:84% reports, eclipses on frontiers and the beards 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.950 align:middle line:84% they are blowing through wooden fences dead men. 00:02:39.950 --> 00:02:43.610 align:middle line:84% But there are no flies in that wind crying sand only. 00:02:43.610 --> 00:02:45.980 align:middle line:84% The long arrows and the kissing arrows 00:02:45.980 --> 00:02:48.560 align:middle line:84% through which his wife coming with her spillage of dreams 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:50.000 align:middle line:90% because of this man. 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.270 align:middle line:84% But it is the broken windows that look to the future. 00:02:53.270 --> 00:02:56.330 align:middle line:84% And empire is the viewing is different. 00:02:56.330 --> 00:02:58.670 align:middle line:90% So a dream itself. 00:02:58.670 --> 00:03:00.590 align:middle line:84% And how can a man voyage on more than one 00:03:00.590 --> 00:03:05.130 align:middle line:84% bark, one trireme, one skiff with one ore at one time, 00:03:05.130 --> 00:03:10.742 align:middle line:84% even after the washing is heard on that shore and the one oar. 00:03:10.742 --> 00:03:12.950 align:middle line:84% And you should not imagine either that you yourselves 00:03:12.950 --> 00:03:16.760 align:middle line:84% are later or far or otherwise else above all those tongues, 00:03:16.760 --> 00:03:20.720 align:middle line:84% tongues lit at the top of arms under the lungless banners. 00:03:20.720 --> 00:03:24.620 align:middle line:84% The dread in amber, the silence rolling on before the shadows, 00:03:24.620 --> 00:03:27.950 align:middle line:84% burning on the walls with dark cries. 00:03:27.950 --> 00:03:30.950 align:middle line:84% Or going home a long way back through the baths. 00:03:30.950 --> 00:03:34.250 align:middle line:84% The gowns dripping, the feet growing barer, 00:03:34.250 --> 00:03:39.410 align:middle line:84% and the dark flights vanishing into the cracks in the day. 00:03:39.410 --> 00:03:40.940 align:middle line:90% It is termed an alien judgment. 00:03:40.940 --> 00:03:43.040 align:middle line:84% They are like that and can force then 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:47.180 align:middle line:84% be held accountable that has no life of its own, the dark wine, 00:03:47.180 --> 00:03:49.760 align:middle line:90% dark throats, the call. 00:03:49.760 --> 00:03:51.350 align:middle line:84% The call that hangs in the banners 00:03:51.350 --> 00:03:54.800 align:middle line:84% until it falls as shall the banners fall. 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.740 align:middle line:84% From the walls, the walls from the sky. 00:03:58.740 --> 00:04:02.660 align:middle line:84% Its smoke, its eagles, what was I put here to change? 00:04:02.660 --> 00:04:05.240 align:middle line:90% I was not put here to change. 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.000 align:middle line:84% Could I change myself, my hands and their dreams 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.660 align:middle line:84% a life of their own with its own heaven, own future, 00:04:11.660 --> 00:04:13.580 align:middle line:90% own windows, washing? 00:04:13.580 --> 00:04:15.740 align:middle line:84% Can I change what they do before I am born 00:04:15.740 --> 00:04:17.690 align:middle line:90% for they will do it without me. 00:04:17.690 --> 00:04:20.029 align:middle line:90% Arm in arm with objects. 00:04:20.029 --> 00:04:23.090 align:middle line:84% But lo myself is not visible to this, this man, 00:04:23.090 --> 00:04:24.770 align:middle line:90% the life of its own without me. 00:04:24.770 --> 00:04:28.280 align:middle line:84% Its smoke, its eagles, and wooden fences. 00:04:28.280 --> 00:04:30.770 align:middle line:84% And tonight the hands in the outer circles of the soldiers 00:04:30.770 --> 00:04:34.040 align:middle line:84% corner fires later than the last meal, 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:38.540 align:middle line:84% gesturing at the reeling night, washing in darkness afterwards 00:04:38.540 --> 00:04:41.840 align:middle line:84% will go home and the darkness will let itself down 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:43.780 align:middle line:90% into their prayers. 00:04:43.780 --> 00:04:45.000 align:middle line:90%