WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.136 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:00:03.136 --> 00:00:04.040 align:middle line:90% 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:08.490 align:middle line:84% So now we're going to open the floor up for questions. 00:00:08.490 --> 00:00:12.140 align:middle line:84% If you want to ask a question, you have to enter the light, 00:00:12.140 --> 00:00:13.220 align:middle line:90% right there. 00:00:13.220 --> 00:00:14.810 align:middle line:90% Get on the main stage. 00:00:14.810 --> 00:00:17.150 align:middle line:84% And then the poets will be answering the questions 00:00:17.150 --> 00:00:21.380 align:middle line:84% from over there, which is in the dark, in the cave, 00:00:21.380 --> 00:00:23.100 align:middle line:90% poet cave over here. 00:00:23.100 --> 00:00:24.950 align:middle line:90% So we'll open it up. 00:00:24.950 --> 00:00:30.570 align:middle line:90% 00:00:30.570 --> 00:00:33.960 align:middle line:84% Or no one has to ask any questions. 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.120 align:middle line:84% No one has any que-- it's a big room of people. 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:37.620 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:00:37.620 --> 00:00:39.680 align:middle line:90% I guess I'll come over here. 00:00:39.680 --> 00:00:40.650 align:middle line:90% No, it's OK. 00:00:40.650 --> 00:00:43.350 align:middle line:90% 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:46.170 align:middle line:84% Sorry to start out with such a prosaic kind of question. 00:00:46.170 --> 00:00:48.660 align:middle line:84% But Abe, before I ask this question, 00:00:48.660 --> 00:00:50.730 align:middle line:90% I have to clarify a line. 00:00:50.730 --> 00:00:54.300 align:middle line:84% Did you have a line in when the man-- 00:00:54.300 --> 00:00:56.460 align:middle line:90% whim man mammons that-- 00:00:56.460 --> 00:00:58.440 align:middle line:90% blonde as whipped oil? 00:00:58.440 --> 00:00:59.370 align:middle line:90% Did I hear that right? 00:00:59.370 --> 00:00:59.870 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:00:59.870 --> 00:01:02.430 align:middle line:90% That is such a great metaphor. 00:01:02.430 --> 00:01:04.118 align:middle line:84% And because I haven't read your poems 00:01:04.118 --> 00:01:06.660 align:middle line:84% I'm sure I missed a lot of other ones that are equally great. 00:01:06.660 --> 00:01:09.600 align:middle line:84% And so the reason this is kind of a prosaic craft question is, 00:01:09.600 --> 00:01:11.460 align:middle line:90% and Kim too if you want answers. 00:01:11.460 --> 00:01:13.918 align:middle line:84% Like, so when you come up with a metaphor like that are you 00:01:13.918 --> 00:01:15.335 align:middle line:84% like whipping oil and you're like, 00:01:15.335 --> 00:01:17.220 align:middle line:84% oh my God, this would be such a great image? 00:01:17.220 --> 00:01:19.678 align:middle line:84% Or are you thinking blonde and then-- you know what I mean? 00:01:19.678 --> 00:01:21.710 align:middle line:90% Like do you have a little-- 00:01:21.710 --> 00:01:22.480 align:middle line:90% Jeez. 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:24.840 align:middle line:84% I think that would be the old frost-- 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.220 align:middle line:90% the old frost line. 00:01:26.220 --> 00:01:29.490 align:middle line:84% The poem is the ice cube in the hot skillet. 00:01:29.490 --> 00:01:32.280 align:middle line:84% I think that that's just a moment 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.520 align:middle line:84% of hoping to ride the melting of the sound. 00:01:35.520 --> 00:01:38.890 align:middle line:84% So I don't know that I just was doing much of anything there. 00:01:38.890 --> 00:01:41.160 align:middle line:84% But trying to remain comfortable in doubt, 00:01:41.160 --> 00:01:45.820 align:middle line:84% and ride the slalom down the sound at that moment. 00:01:45.820 --> 00:01:50.350 align:middle line:84% But-- so do you want to follow up. 00:01:50.350 --> 00:01:51.760 align:middle line:90% Yeah, I like the slalom thing. 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:53.470 align:middle line:84% I mean, just sort of the way you answer 00:01:53.470 --> 00:01:55.750 align:middle line:84% the question pretty much tells you the answer I think. 00:01:55.750 --> 00:01:58.088 align:middle line:84% It's like your head moves that way 00:01:58.088 --> 00:01:59.380 align:middle line:90% and you're following your head. 00:01:59.380 --> 00:02:02.440 align:middle line:84% So I think it comes out of the writing. 00:02:02.440 --> 00:02:02.940 align:middle line:90% Really. 00:02:02.940 --> 00:02:09.380 align:middle line:90% 00:02:09.380 --> 00:02:11.810 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:02:11.810 --> 00:02:12.660 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:02:12.660 --> 00:02:13.460 align:middle line:90% I have a question. 00:02:13.460 --> 00:02:14.630 align:middle line:90% I guess for both of you. 00:02:14.630 --> 00:02:17.570 align:middle line:84% I mean, both of your work seemed to have a real performative 00:02:17.570 --> 00:02:19.940 align:middle line:84% aspect to it and how do you reconcile that 00:02:19.940 --> 00:02:21.350 align:middle line:90% with the form on the page? 00:02:21.350 --> 00:02:26.850 align:middle line:84% And also do you try to do as many readings as possible? 00:02:26.850 --> 00:02:29.910 align:middle line:84% I guess I've got the mic so I'll start. 00:02:29.910 --> 00:02:33.060 align:middle line:84% I'm writing for the page, actually, 00:02:33.060 --> 00:02:36.960 align:middle line:84% and then I try to do what I can when I speak it. 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.300 align:middle line:84% I mean, I think some spoken stuff 00:02:39.300 --> 00:02:42.510 align:middle line:84% is meant sort of for that synergy and that interaction 00:02:42.510 --> 00:02:46.410 align:middle line:84% between what's on the page and the way you perform it. 00:02:46.410 --> 00:02:48.240 align:middle line:84% But I think I'm writing for the page 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:52.740 align:middle line:84% first and hearing it in my head and then 00:02:52.740 --> 00:02:55.140 align:middle line:84% like I said I try to do what I can with them. 00:02:55.140 --> 00:02:56.940 align:middle line:84% I'm not a performance artist but I 00:02:56.940 --> 00:02:59.310 align:middle line:84% try to animate it as much as I can 00:02:59.310 --> 00:03:00.730 align:middle line:90% and give it to the language. 00:03:00.730 --> 00:03:04.320 align:middle line:90% 00:03:04.320 --> 00:03:04.820 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:03:04.820 --> 00:03:06.740 align:middle line:84% I guess I'd say more or less the same thing. 00:03:06.740 --> 00:03:07.240 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:08.000 align:middle line:90% I guess. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.180 align:middle line:84% I think I write poems by walking around and kind of talking 00:03:11.180 --> 00:03:13.700 align:middle line:84% to myself and making people very afraid of who 00:03:13.700 --> 00:03:16.665 align:middle line:84% I might be as I walk around outside talking to myself. 00:03:16.665 --> 00:03:18.290 align:middle line:84% And then secondly, I like that Garcia-- 00:03:18.290 --> 00:03:20.480 align:middle line:84% the Lorca line, "My poem is published 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:21.900 align:middle line:90% when it springs from my lungs." 00:03:21.900 --> 00:03:24.140 align:middle line:84% So I love that second sense of publishing 00:03:24.140 --> 00:03:26.072 align:middle line:90% as well to get out and yap. 00:03:26.072 --> 00:03:27.530 align:middle line:84% Yeah, I love to do as many readings 00:03:27.530 --> 00:03:29.360 align:middle line:90% as I get the chance to do. 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:41.670 align:middle line:90% 00:03:41.670 --> 00:03:43.230 align:middle line:90% Quick question. 00:03:43.230 --> 00:03:48.198 align:middle line:84% Mr. Smith, I was wondering, are your lines long or short? 00:03:48.198 --> 00:03:49.530 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:03:49.530 --> 00:03:51.150 align:middle line:90% They're almost all very short. 00:03:51.150 --> 00:03:52.710 align:middle line:84% There are some long ones but mostly 00:03:52.710 --> 00:03:54.960 align:middle line:84% they're very short and unpunctuated. 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.020 align:middle line:84% Again, I guess because I'm anticipating 00:03:58.020 --> 00:03:59.250 align:middle line:90% freaking out when I read. 00:03:59.250 --> 00:04:00.420 align:middle line:90% So yeah. 00:04:00.420 --> 00:04:03.780 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:04:03.780 --> 00:04:11.950 align:middle line:90% 00:04:11.950 --> 00:04:19.930 align:middle line:84% Do you or any of the local poets do like home concerts 00:04:19.930 --> 00:04:23.370 align:middle line:84% because it really has to be spoken? 00:04:23.370 --> 00:04:24.120 align:middle line:90% I think. 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:28.380 align:middle line:84% And so do you do concerts in people's houses like they 00:04:28.380 --> 00:04:32.640 align:middle line:84% do in music or do you basically hang out in coffee houses 00:04:32.640 --> 00:04:36.078 align:middle line:90% and poetry centers? 00:04:36.078 --> 00:04:39.000 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.600 align:middle line:84% Well, I mean, I'm in Alabama and we have a lot of-- we 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:44.680 align:middle line:84% have a really nice community of writers there. 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.550 align:middle line:84% So sometimes we read for each other a little bit. 00:04:47.550 --> 00:04:49.800 align:middle line:84% And sometimes-- and there are some great readings here 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:50.842 align:middle line:90% and there in the country. 00:04:50.842 --> 00:04:52.685 align:middle line:84% There's a really nice one this guy Chall 00:04:52.685 --> 00:04:54.930 align:middle line:84% Gray does in Asheville, in North Carolina, where 00:04:54.930 --> 00:04:57.070 align:middle line:84% you can go into his house and do a reading. 00:04:57.070 --> 00:04:59.290 align:middle line:84% So there are some nice house readings here and there. 00:04:59.290 --> 00:05:01.678 align:middle line:90% But yeah I don't know. 00:05:01.678 --> 00:05:02.220 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 00:05:02.220 --> 00:05:03.870 align:middle line:90% What do you know? 00:05:03.870 --> 00:05:05.010 align:middle line:90% I think-- yeah. 00:05:05.010 --> 00:05:07.077 align:middle line:84% I mean, I think it's like any art. 00:05:07.077 --> 00:05:08.910 align:middle line:84% You can hear it in a lot of different venues 00:05:08.910 --> 00:05:09.780 align:middle line:90% and so they're-- 00:05:09.780 --> 00:05:13.868 align:middle line:84% obviously, this is a poetry festival, and University venue, 00:05:13.868 --> 00:05:15.660 align:middle line:84% and a lot of readings need to happen there. 00:05:15.660 --> 00:05:19.710 align:middle line:84% And I've done sort of house readings with people. 00:05:19.710 --> 00:05:22.290 align:middle line:84% A lot of times people might get a mix-- sort of a salon 00:05:22.290 --> 00:05:24.660 align:middle line:84% kind of thing where they'll maybe have some music, 00:05:24.660 --> 00:05:26.740 align:middle line:84% and they'll have some poetry, and various things. 00:05:26.740 --> 00:05:29.370 align:middle line:90% So it's like anything else. 00:05:29.370 --> 00:05:31.495 align:middle line:84% It happens in all kinds of places. 00:05:31.495 --> 00:05:31.995 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:05:31.995 --> 00:05:39.470 align:middle line:90% 00:05:39.470 --> 00:05:41.240 align:middle line:84% For those of us who feel like we're always 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.870 align:middle line:84% stuck in the same place could you both just say a little bit 00:05:44.870 --> 00:05:48.140 align:middle line:84% about the evolution of your work? 00:05:48.140 --> 00:05:52.490 align:middle line:84% What you feel the changes have been? 00:05:52.490 --> 00:05:55.280 align:middle line:84% Well, I think that's a big question 00:05:55.280 --> 00:05:57.200 align:middle line:84% so it's kind of hard to answer specifically. 00:05:57.200 --> 00:06:01.730 align:middle line:84% But I would just say that I at least as a writer 00:06:01.730 --> 00:06:04.070 align:middle line:84% I'm sort of always looking for the next thing. 00:06:04.070 --> 00:06:05.778 align:middle line:84% I'm trying to do what I didn't do before. 00:06:05.778 --> 00:06:07.737 align:middle line:84% I mean, you always end up doing the same thing. 00:06:07.737 --> 00:06:09.830 align:middle line:84% You can't help yourself because you're obsessed. 00:06:09.830 --> 00:06:12.570 align:middle line:84% And so you always write out of the same obsessions I think. 00:06:12.570 --> 00:06:15.890 align:middle line:84% But in terms of style and stuff, I 00:06:15.890 --> 00:06:18.530 align:middle line:84% find that I sort of run through certain writers that inspire me 00:06:18.530 --> 00:06:18.980 align:middle line:90% at a time. 00:06:18.980 --> 00:06:20.300 align:middle line:84% And then I'm looking for somebody else 00:06:20.300 --> 00:06:21.925 align:middle line:84% in some other way of writing that maybe 00:06:21.925 --> 00:06:24.680 align:middle line:84% is a little different from what came before. 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:29.450 align:middle line:84% And then now that the music is part of my life, 00:06:29.450 --> 00:06:32.010 align:middle line:84% I'm really trying more to put those things together. 00:06:32.010 --> 00:06:32.840 align:middle line:90% And so that's-- 00:06:32.840 --> 00:06:33.830 align:middle line:84% I don't know if it's going to change 00:06:33.830 --> 00:06:36.020 align:middle line:84% the actual writing but maybe when I write something 00:06:36.020 --> 00:06:38.810 align:middle line:84% I'm going to be thinking a lot about how to do it in a way 00:06:38.810 --> 00:06:41.100 align:middle line:84% that I can incorporate music into it. 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:41.600 align:middle line:90% So-- 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.840 align:middle line:90% 00:06:44.840 --> 00:06:47.800 align:middle line:84% I'd answer more or less the same there. 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:48.470 align:middle line:90% I mean-- 00:06:48.470 --> 00:06:48.970 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:06:48.970 --> 00:06:49.330 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:06:49.330 --> 00:06:49.830 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:06:49.830 --> 00:06:50.620 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:06:50.620 --> 00:06:51.430 align:middle line:90% Doppelganger. 00:06:51.430 --> 00:06:52.875 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:06:52.875 --> 00:06:55.000 align:middle line:84% Didn't-- you didn't read that Edgar Allan Poe story 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:55.625 align:middle line:90% we're the same. 00:06:55.625 --> 00:06:56.260 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:06:56.260 --> 00:06:57.340 align:middle line:90% No. 00:06:57.340 --> 00:06:58.060 align:middle line:90% Doppelganger. 00:06:58.060 --> 00:06:59.050 align:middle line:90% No, I think. 00:06:59.050 --> 00:06:59.748 align:middle line:90% Yeah, the same. 00:06:59.748 --> 00:07:01.790 align:middle line:84% And also one thing interesting I think about kind 00:07:01.790 --> 00:07:05.110 align:middle line:90% of the workshop formats. 00:07:05.110 --> 00:07:06.880 align:middle line:84% A lot of us through the years have 00:07:06.880 --> 00:07:10.420 align:middle line:84% gone through an MFA program where you do workshops a lot. 00:07:10.420 --> 00:07:12.670 align:middle line:84% And I don't know the style of my poems 00:07:12.670 --> 00:07:14.180 align:middle line:90% has kind of remained the same. 00:07:14.180 --> 00:07:15.788 align:middle line:84% So there's something that I've taken 00:07:15.788 --> 00:07:17.830 align:middle line:84% from workshops, which is not to listen sometimes, 00:07:17.830 --> 00:07:18.700 align:middle line:90% and to be stubborn. 00:07:18.700 --> 00:07:20.140 align:middle line:90% And sometimes there's glory. 00:07:20.140 --> 00:07:23.830 align:middle line:84% There is a glorious fat fish down in the pothole of that rut 00:07:23.830 --> 00:07:27.070 align:middle line:84% that you keep running rolling down. 00:07:27.070 --> 00:07:29.500 align:middle line:90% And so I guess that's-- 00:07:29.500 --> 00:07:31.930 align:middle line:84% though I hope to keep evolving and keep 00:07:31.930 --> 00:07:34.300 align:middle line:84% trying new kind of formats for the writing. 00:07:34.300 --> 00:07:36.550 align:middle line:84% There's also an old kind of stubbornness, 00:07:36.550 --> 00:07:38.020 align:middle line:90% which I don't know. 00:07:38.020 --> 00:07:40.420 align:middle line:84% That's more or less what I would say. 00:07:40.420 --> 00:07:46.210 align:middle line:90% 00:07:46.210 --> 00:07:47.920 align:middle line:90% I have a question. 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.280 align:middle line:84% I was really excited to be the moderator for this reading 00:07:51.280 --> 00:07:54.010 align:middle line:84% because it's kind of like an outsider reading. 00:07:54.010 --> 00:07:56.470 align:middle line:84% And I guess you both are kind of outsiders in a way, 00:07:56.470 --> 00:07:59.350 align:middle line:84% like uncategorizable except maybe for the words 00:07:59.350 --> 00:08:00.355 align:middle line:90% like bad and nasty. 00:08:00.355 --> 00:08:02.230 align:middle line:84% And that's why I was really excited about it. 00:08:02.230 --> 00:08:04.228 align:middle line:84% I'm doing the bad and nasty reading. 00:08:04.228 --> 00:08:06.520 align:middle line:84% So maybe I was wondering if you could talk a little bit 00:08:06.520 --> 00:08:11.770 align:middle line:84% about being kind of an outsider not in a specific group 00:08:11.770 --> 00:08:12.535 align:middle line:90% of other poets. 00:08:12.535 --> 00:08:16.780 align:middle line:90% 00:08:16.780 --> 00:08:19.180 align:middle line:84% I don't think of myself as bad or nasty. 00:08:19.180 --> 00:08:21.700 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:08:21.700 --> 00:08:23.790 align:middle line:90% I'm just drawn that way. 00:08:23.790 --> 00:08:26.400 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:08:26.400 --> 00:08:28.500 align:middle line:84% I mean, I think if that's what you 00:08:28.500 --> 00:08:30.390 align:middle line:84% call bad you need to go out a little bit 00:08:30.390 --> 00:08:31.590 align:middle line:90% and experience the world. 00:08:31.590 --> 00:08:32.130 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry. 00:08:32.130 --> 00:08:32.760 align:middle line:90% I mean, really. 00:08:32.760 --> 00:08:35.289 align:middle line:84% It's like, it's kind of what I have to say. 00:08:35.289 --> 00:08:36.530 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry. 00:08:36.530 --> 00:08:39.780 align:middle line:84% That was kind of nasty to offend the moderator. 00:08:39.780 --> 00:08:41.909 align:middle line:84% So maybe there's a grain of truth there. 00:08:41.909 --> 00:08:44.010 align:middle line:90% But yeah. 00:08:44.010 --> 00:08:47.970 align:middle line:84% I don't-- I think that's sort of other people's overlay. 00:08:47.970 --> 00:08:52.320 align:middle line:84% I'm just trying to be an artist and write what I write. 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.460 align:middle line:84% And a University definitely partly supports me 00:08:56.460 --> 00:08:58.620 align:middle line:84% because I go around the country and I 00:08:58.620 --> 00:08:59.850 align:middle line:90% get paid to give readings. 00:08:59.850 --> 00:09:02.820 align:middle line:84% And I just don't happen to like being in the University 00:09:02.820 --> 00:09:03.750 align:middle line:90% because that's-- 00:09:03.750 --> 00:09:08.640 align:middle line:84% as a way to make my living because it doesn't suit me. 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:10.580 align:middle line:90% So I guess in that sense I'm-- 00:09:10.580 --> 00:09:12.570 align:middle line:84% if people want to call that outsider, 00:09:12.570 --> 00:09:16.860 align:middle line:84% I mean, obviously I've gotten inside awards 00:09:16.860 --> 00:09:19.170 align:middle line:84% and I'm here at the festival and all that. 00:09:19.170 --> 00:09:21.330 align:middle line:84% So I don't think I'm such an outsider. 00:09:21.330 --> 00:09:24.420 align:middle line:84% I think people make a big thing of my not working in academia. 00:09:24.420 --> 00:09:25.710 align:middle line:90% It's like, well, so what? 00:09:25.710 --> 00:09:27.150 align:middle line:84% I mean, this is what I want to do. 00:09:27.150 --> 00:09:30.390 align:middle line:84% So I guess that's enough of my answer 00:09:30.390 --> 00:09:32.470 align:middle line:84% and we'll see what my other half has to say. 00:09:32.470 --> 00:09:32.970 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:09:32.970 --> 00:09:33.810 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:09:33.810 --> 00:09:36.180 align:middle line:90% D-I-T-T-O. That's what I-- 00:09:36.180 --> 00:09:36.690 align:middle line:90% no. 00:09:36.690 --> 00:09:37.200 align:middle line:90% I mean. 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:38.370 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:09:38.370 --> 00:09:39.300 align:middle line:90% No, I mean-- 00:09:39.300 --> 00:09:41.580 align:middle line:84% I don't-- no-- yeah, more or less the same. 00:09:41.580 --> 00:09:44.460 align:middle line:84% And then also the only thing that kind of drive 00:09:44.460 --> 00:09:51.518 align:middle line:84% drives me to-- beside myself is one reason people 00:09:51.518 --> 00:09:53.310 align:middle line:84% would say I was an outsider is because they 00:09:53.310 --> 00:09:56.620 align:middle line:84% would say that I'm a slam poet or a spoken word artist. 00:09:56.620 --> 00:09:58.682 align:middle line:84% But sometimes I think, well, gosh, I haven't-- 00:09:58.682 --> 00:10:00.640 align:middle line:84% not that-- I don't have anything against slams. 00:10:00.640 --> 00:10:02.848 align:middle line:84% I think they can be very rewarding and dynamic venues 00:10:02.848 --> 00:10:04.660 align:middle line:84% but I haven't been to one in over a decade. 00:10:04.660 --> 00:10:06.665 align:middle line:90% And is it OK-- 00:10:06.665 --> 00:10:09.690 align:middle line:84% wouldn't it just be all right to be kind of effusive in reading 00:10:09.690 --> 00:10:12.060 align:middle line:84% and then if you're effusive does that mean 00:10:12.060 --> 00:10:16.140 align:middle line:84% you're necessarily wear the helmet of slamdom 00:10:16.140 --> 00:10:17.280 align:middle line:90% at that instant. 00:10:17.280 --> 00:10:18.150 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 00:10:18.150 --> 00:10:21.990 align:middle line:84% But so far I guess I'm still pigeoned 00:10:21.990 --> 00:10:27.600 align:middle line:84% in that kind of outsiders tribe outside of the gleaming ivory 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.550 align:middle line:90% tower. 00:10:29.550 --> 00:10:31.050 align:middle line:84% But I don't know, I think that would 00:10:31.050 --> 00:10:32.967 align:middle line:84% be something that would be exciting for people 00:10:32.967 --> 00:10:36.270 align:middle line:84% to wonder about why that tag goes on to just-- 00:10:36.270 --> 00:10:38.550 align:middle line:84% if you're kind of quivering and shouting 00:10:38.550 --> 00:10:41.520 align:middle line:84% does that mean then that you are a slam poet? 00:10:41.520 --> 00:10:42.720 align:middle line:90% I don't know about that. 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:44.400 align:middle line:90% I don't know about that. 00:10:44.400 --> 00:10:45.195 align:middle line:90% Well, anyways. 00:10:45.195 --> 00:10:49.390 align:middle line:90% 00:10:49.390 --> 00:10:52.300 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] I guess I'll close it out. 00:10:52.300 --> 00:10:55.507 align:middle line:84% I get the moderator to ask the stupid questions. 00:10:55.507 --> 00:10:56.590 align:middle line:90% That's what you got to do. 00:10:56.590 --> 00:10:57.800 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:10:57.800 --> 00:10:58.300 align:middle line:90% All right. 00:10:58.300 --> 00:11:00.880 align:middle line:90% So I guess we'll close it out. 00:11:00.880 --> 00:11:03.130 align:middle line:84% Thanks for attending this reading. 00:11:03.130 --> 00:11:08.680 align:middle line:84% The authors will be autographing books in tent C, in the Madden 00:11:08.680 --> 00:11:12.160 align:middle line:84% Media signing area, on the mall just south of this building 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:14.110 align:middle line:90% in about 10 minutes, 5-- 00:11:14.110 --> 00:11:14.710 align:middle line:90% 10 minutes. 00:11:14.710 --> 00:11:16.640 align:middle line:90% 10 minutes. 00:11:16.640 --> 00:11:21.200 align:middle line:84% Last but not least, if you are enjoying the festival 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.200 align:middle line:84% and interested in being a friend of the festival, 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.540 align:middle line:84% you can go to the information booths on the mall, 00:11:26.540 --> 00:11:29.970 align:middle line:90% or online, or at our website. 00:11:29.970 --> 00:11:31.560 align:middle line:84% And thanks again for your support. 00:11:31.560 --> 00:11:32.467 align:middle line:90% One more thank you. 00:11:32.467 --> 00:11:34.550 align:middle line:84% Really fast because I don't know if it'll be said. 00:11:34.550 --> 00:11:37.610 align:middle line:84% But I really want to give a big thanks to Cybele over 00:11:37.610 --> 00:11:42.710 align:middle line:84% there who's been like the glue of the poetry festival 00:11:42.710 --> 00:11:43.580 align:middle line:90% committee. 00:11:43.580 --> 00:11:45.080 align:middle line:90% So maybe we'll just-- 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.430 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:11:48.430 --> 00:11:51.000 align:middle line:90%