WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.090 align:middle line:84% I want to read from the book and then what I like to do 00:00:03.090 --> 00:00:04.350 align:middle line:90% is open it up. 00:00:04.350 --> 00:00:07.050 align:middle line:84% I love reading, but I think that the discussion 00:00:07.050 --> 00:00:09.070 align:middle line:90% is more important. 00:00:09.070 --> 00:00:13.080 align:middle line:84% I want to read one of the last passages in the book. 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:14.850 align:middle line:84% For many of you who don't know, but some 00:00:14.850 --> 00:00:17.190 align:middle line:84% who do know who have read the book, 00:00:17.190 --> 00:00:20.400 align:middle line:84% I grew up in a neighborhood called Las Lomas just 00:00:20.400 --> 00:00:23.850 align:middle line:90% outside of LA, East of LA. 00:00:23.850 --> 00:00:27.000 align:middle line:84% We had enemies called Sangra, which was 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.490 align:middle line:90% around the San Gabriel Mission. 00:00:29.490 --> 00:00:31.170 align:middle line:84% And there was a war that had been fought 00:00:31.170 --> 00:00:33.930 align:middle line:90% by fathers and grandfathers. 00:00:33.930 --> 00:00:36.843 align:middle line:84% And I don't even know what started it. 00:00:36.843 --> 00:00:38.010 align:middle line:90% They have different stories. 00:00:38.010 --> 00:00:40.230 align:middle line:90% But I never really knew. 00:00:40.230 --> 00:00:43.710 align:middle line:84% And basically, what it was is-- you got into the barrio. 00:00:43.710 --> 00:00:46.500 align:middle line:84% Somebody gave you guns and said, here's your enemies. 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:49.110 align:middle line:84% They killed us and we killed them. 00:00:49.110 --> 00:00:52.350 align:middle line:84% When I wrote the book, part of it was a healing. 00:00:52.350 --> 00:00:54.190 align:middle line:90% To heal part of that struggle. 00:00:54.190 --> 00:00:56.760 align:middle line:84% And I dedicated the book, as you know, the 25-- 00:00:56.760 --> 00:00:58.410 align:middle line:84% it was mentioned-- are my friends. 00:00:58.410 --> 00:01:00.540 align:middle line:84% But some of them were my so-called "enemies," 00:01:00.540 --> 00:01:02.700 align:middle line:90% because they're not my enemies. 00:01:02.700 --> 00:01:07.860 align:middle line:84% And I never knew how Sangra people would take it. 00:01:07.860 --> 00:01:09.960 align:middle line:84% I went back to my old neighborhood. 00:01:09.960 --> 00:01:14.340 align:middle line:84% I had some of my homeboys from that time meet with me. 00:01:14.340 --> 00:01:15.687 align:middle line:90% They embraced me. 00:01:15.687 --> 00:01:17.520 align:middle line:84% They invited me to come speak to the schools 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:20.080 align:middle line:84% and speak to their kids who are going to schools. 00:01:20.080 --> 00:01:21.827 align:middle line:84% And then I went into Sangra neighborhood 00:01:21.827 --> 00:01:23.410 align:middle line:84% and people were telling me, "hey, man, 00:01:23.410 --> 00:01:25.618 align:middle line:84% don't go there because it turns out that war is still 00:01:25.618 --> 00:01:27.180 align:middle line:90% going on today." 00:01:27.180 --> 00:01:30.450 align:middle line:84% In fact, two months before I got there, somebody from Sangra 00:01:30.450 --> 00:01:33.680 align:middle line:84% had beaten, stabbed, and shot, and killed a kid from Lomas 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.222 align:middle line:84% Just two months before I got there. 00:01:35.222 --> 00:01:36.930 align:middle line:84% So they were saying, don't go there, man. 00:01:36.930 --> 00:01:39.386 align:middle line:84% You know it's still going on and they know you, 00:01:39.386 --> 00:01:40.636 align:middle line:90% and all those kinds of things. 00:01:40.636 --> 00:01:43.540 align:middle line:84% I said, you know I have to go there. 00:01:43.540 --> 00:01:44.040 align:middle line:90% And I did. 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.510 align:middle line:84% And I spoke to all the little chavalillos, little kids-- 00:01:46.510 --> 00:01:47.940 align:middle line:90% and it was a great, great time. 00:01:47.940 --> 00:01:48.460 align:middle line:90% Great talk. 00:01:48.460 --> 00:01:49.168 align:middle line:90% Nothing happened. 00:01:49.168 --> 00:01:50.642 align:middle line:90% It was just beautiful. 00:01:50.642 --> 00:01:52.350 align:middle line:84% But again, you don't even know if there's 00:01:52.350 --> 00:01:54.430 align:middle line:84% a lot of terrible damage that goes on. 00:01:54.430 --> 00:01:56.730 align:middle line:84% And I wanted people to not forget, 00:01:56.730 --> 00:01:59.310 align:middle line:84% because to me one of the problems is we don't heal. 00:01:59.310 --> 00:02:02.190 align:middle line:84% We don't have revolutionary healing. 00:02:02.190 --> 00:02:03.390 align:middle line:90% So many mothers-- 00:02:03.390 --> 00:02:06.360 align:middle line:84% I know mothers who have lost two or three of their own kids 00:02:06.360 --> 00:02:07.320 align:middle line:90% during these wars. 00:02:07.320 --> 00:02:09.660 align:middle line:84% And they try to forget, and they try to not remember, 00:02:09.660 --> 00:02:12.840 align:middle line:84% and they-- and so many pain and death, and then 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:14.302 align:middle line:90% nobody wants to talk about it. 00:02:14.302 --> 00:02:16.260 align:middle line:84% And then the next generation picks it up again. 00:02:16.260 --> 00:02:18.900 align:middle line:90% 00:02:18.900 --> 00:02:21.840 align:middle line:84% I was fortunate that I was in northern California. 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:27.180 align:middle line:84% And I was speaking to a number of locals there, 00:02:27.180 --> 00:02:30.523 align:middle line:84% and some man walked in and he sat down. 00:02:30.523 --> 00:02:31.440 align:middle line:90% And as I was speaking. 00:02:31.440 --> 00:02:34.710 align:middle line:84% I was talking about all this, and it turns out 00:02:34.710 --> 00:02:37.540 align:middle line:84% that he's a guy that I hadn't seen in 20 years. 00:02:37.540 --> 00:02:43.877 align:middle line:84% He was a member of Sangra, and was a tecato for 20 years. 00:02:43.877 --> 00:02:45.960 align:middle line:84% And had kicked it, and had started work with youth 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:47.430 align:middle line:90% there in northern California. 00:02:47.430 --> 00:02:50.048 align:middle line:84% And he came to hear me talk I guess he just 00:02:50.048 --> 00:02:51.090 align:middle line:90% wanted to know who I was. 00:02:51.090 --> 00:02:52.740 align:middle line:90% What I was about. 00:02:52.740 --> 00:02:57.030 align:middle line:84% And when he got up, he started talking 00:02:57.030 --> 00:02:59.760 align:middle line:84% about how he had read the book and remembered 00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:02.850 align:middle line:84% all these things, and remember the names. 00:03:02.850 --> 00:03:06.120 align:middle line:84% And, again, he started to cry, and talked 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.840 align:middle line:84% about how 20 years ago we would be killing each other. 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:14.610 align:middle line:84% And he came up to me with sage and gave it to me 00:03:14.610 --> 00:03:17.190 align:middle line:90% as a peace offering. 00:03:17.190 --> 00:03:21.660 align:middle line:84% And then I hugged him and told him, 00:03:21.660 --> 00:03:24.060 align:middle line:84% "We got to fight for our children now. 00:03:24.060 --> 00:03:27.190 align:middle line:90% We got to save some lives." 00:03:27.190 --> 00:03:29.010 align:middle line:90% And I was very moved by this-- 00:03:29.010 --> 00:03:32.100 align:middle line:84% that our enemies, who you wouldn't imagine the kind 00:03:32.100 --> 00:03:34.530 align:middle line:90% of enemies that this was. 00:03:34.530 --> 00:03:37.440 align:middle line:84% The terror and terrible damage we did to each other. 00:03:37.440 --> 00:03:41.280 align:middle line:84% I want to read this last part, because it's related to that. 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.505 align:middle line:84% It's related to one of the homeboys from-- 00:03:43.505 --> 00:03:44.880 align:middle line:84% one of the guys from Sangra who I 00:03:44.880 --> 00:03:49.235 align:middle line:84% called Chava in the book, who, unfortunately, was or one 00:03:49.235 --> 00:03:49.860 align:middle line:90% of the leaders. 00:03:49.860 --> 00:03:51.860 align:middle line:84% One of the main guys, but actually what happened 00:03:51.860 --> 00:03:55.680 align:middle line:84% is that he got walked into the wrong party. 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.430 align:middle line:84% He thought it was just some regular dudes. 00:03:57.430 --> 00:03:59.790 align:middle line:84% Turned out eight members of Lomas were there. 00:03:59.790 --> 00:04:00.690 align:middle line:90% They cornered him. 00:04:00.690 --> 00:04:03.240 align:middle line:90% They each stabbed him once. 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.015 align:middle line:84% As he fell down, he had eight stab wounds. 00:04:05.015 --> 00:04:06.390 align:middle line:84% And then still somebody picked up 00:04:06.390 --> 00:04:09.015 align:middle line:84% a tire rim-- a rusted tire rim-- and thrust it down on his head 00:04:09.015 --> 00:04:11.340 align:middle line:90% and cracked his head open. 00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:13.720 align:middle line:84% So I thought that he had died, because sometimes things 00:04:13.720 --> 00:04:14.220 align:middle line:90% happened. 00:04:14.220 --> 00:04:15.960 align:middle line:84% You don't really find out and you just-- 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:17.459 align:middle line:90% I thought he was dead. 00:04:17.459 --> 00:04:20.220 align:middle line:84% Years later, I came back to the neighborhood for a quinceanera 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:22.590 align:middle line:90% and he's there. 00:04:22.590 --> 00:04:25.710 align:middle line:84% He comes up to me, and this is the incident that happened. 00:04:25.710 --> 00:04:27.690 align:middle line:84% One of the things, in case you don't know, 00:04:27.690 --> 00:04:31.630 align:middle line:84% my barrio name-- my placa was Chin de Lomas. 00:04:31.630 --> 00:04:35.390 align:middle line:90% So it mentions it in here. 00:04:35.390 --> 00:04:37.760 align:middle line:84% I'm at a quinceanera dance at the American Legion 00:04:37.760 --> 00:04:38.990 align:middle line:90% Hall in St. Gabriel. 00:04:38.990 --> 00:04:42.710 align:middle line:84% My cousin's, one of Tio Chico's daughters, I'm older, 00:04:42.710 --> 00:04:44.330 align:middle line:84% married with a child, and dressed 00:04:44.330 --> 00:04:45.890 align:middle line:90% in plain shirt and pants. 00:04:45.890 --> 00:04:47.180 align:middle line:90% Hair is shortened. 00:04:47.180 --> 00:04:49.880 align:middle line:84% Not much to show for what I had been through only a short time 00:04:49.880 --> 00:04:51.140 align:middle line:90% earlier. 00:04:51.140 --> 00:04:53.300 align:middle line:84% I step outside to take in some air. 00:04:53.300 --> 00:04:55.490 align:middle line:84% I lean against a parked sedan, looking 00:04:55.490 --> 00:04:57.530 align:middle line:84% at the stars, which seem extraordinarily 00:04:57.530 --> 00:04:59.690 align:middle line:90% large and bright this evening. 00:04:59.690 --> 00:05:02.870 align:middle line:84% Just then, a short figure, wobbling with a kind of limp, 00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:04.220 align:middle line:90% moves toward me. 00:05:04.220 --> 00:05:06.290 align:middle line:84% He has a blue beanie cap over his head, 00:05:06.290 --> 00:05:08.840 align:middle line:90% and the dark hooded sweatshirt. 00:05:08.840 --> 00:05:10.490 align:middle line:90% "You Chin DeLomas?" 00:05:10.490 --> 00:05:11.720 align:middle line:90% Says the figure. 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:12.680 align:middle line:90% I don't recognize him. 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.710 align:middle line:84% Not even the voice, which wraps as much as it slurs-- 00:05:15.710 --> 00:05:18.068 align:middle line:90% no pangs of familiarity. 00:05:18.068 --> 00:05:20.360 align:middle line:84% "I guess I am, but it's been a long time since anyone's 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.460 align:middle line:90% called me that," I said. 00:05:22.460 --> 00:05:24.390 align:middle line:90% "You're going to die." 00:05:24.390 --> 00:05:26.292 align:middle line:90% "What are you talking about?" 00:05:26.292 --> 00:05:28.500 align:middle line:84% "You thought you killed me, but you didn't," the dude 00:05:28.500 --> 00:05:31.170 align:middle line:84% says, hauntingly measuring every word. 00:05:31.170 --> 00:05:32.730 align:middle line:90% "I took all your shanks. 00:05:32.730 --> 00:05:34.860 align:middle line:90% Eight of them right here." 00:05:34.860 --> 00:05:36.540 align:middle line:90% He lifts up the sweatshirt. 00:05:36.540 --> 00:05:39.180 align:middle line:84% A ghastly number of scars traverse his torso. 00:05:39.180 --> 00:05:44.270 align:middle line:84% A plastic bag is strapped at his side to hold his urine. 00:05:44.270 --> 00:05:45.200 align:middle line:90% "You did this to me. 00:05:45.200 --> 00:05:47.860 align:middle line:90% Look hard, you did this." 00:05:47.860 --> 00:05:50.080 align:middle line:84% "You got it wrong, Chava, it wasn't me." 00:05:50.080 --> 00:05:51.820 align:middle line:90% "Sure, I heard it before. 00:05:51.820 --> 00:05:55.240 align:middle line:84% I know who did this, and you're going to pay." 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.300 align:middle line:84% From the side, emerged to other guys Healthy and strong, 00:05:58.300 --> 00:05:59.470 align:middle line:90% looking like street-- 00:05:59.470 --> 00:06:02.230 align:middle line:84% although a lot younger than the both of us. 00:06:02.230 --> 00:06:05.320 align:middle line:84% "Chava, listen," I say, "I heard about what happened that night, 00:06:05.320 --> 00:06:06.850 align:middle line:90% but I wasn't there. 00:06:06.850 --> 00:06:08.680 align:middle line:84% For some time now, I've been working my way 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:10.300 align:middle line:90% out of a useless existence. 00:06:10.300 --> 00:06:12.400 align:middle line:84% Now I found something to live for. 00:06:12.400 --> 00:06:14.080 align:middle line:90% Bigger than you and me. 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:16.180 align:middle line:90% Bigger than Lomas and Sangra. 00:06:16.180 --> 00:06:18.070 align:middle line:90% You don't want me." 00:06:18.070 --> 00:06:20.890 align:middle line:84% Chava gets closer, alcohol on his breath. 00:06:20.890 --> 00:06:23.470 align:middle line:84% I can see tears forming in his eyes. 00:06:23.470 --> 00:06:24.280 align:middle line:90% "Lomas did this. 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:26.740 align:middle line:84% Somebody has to pay," he yells while pulling off 00:06:26.740 --> 00:06:29.380 align:middle line:84% the beanie cap, revealing the misshapen head 00:06:29.380 --> 00:06:32.100 align:middle line:90% with scattered slivers of hair. 00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:34.770 align:middle line:84% The scars on his body don't compare to those on his head 00:06:34.770 --> 00:06:36.938 align:middle line:90% and the side of his face. 00:06:36.938 --> 00:06:37.980 align:middle line:90% "Look what you did to me. 00:06:37.980 --> 00:06:40.710 align:middle line:84% Somebody has to pay for this," he repeats. 00:06:40.710 --> 00:06:43.140 align:middle line:84% He is so disturbed I can see him pulling out a knife 00:06:43.140 --> 00:06:46.090 align:middle line:84% and stabbing me, just to solve his pain. 00:06:46.090 --> 00:06:47.880 align:middle line:84% I look at the guys next to me, and they 00:06:47.880 --> 00:06:50.730 align:middle line:84% strike me as too young and inexperienced to act. 00:06:50.730 --> 00:06:54.410 align:middle line:84% I keep talking, "There's some things to fight for. 00:06:54.410 --> 00:06:55.890 align:middle line:90% Some things to die for. 00:06:55.890 --> 00:06:57.650 align:middle line:90% But not this, Chava. 00:06:57.650 --> 00:06:58.940 align:middle line:90% You're alive. 00:06:58.940 --> 00:07:00.770 align:middle line:84% I feel for you, man, but you're alive. 00:07:00.770 --> 00:07:03.170 align:middle line:84% Don't waste the rest of your days with this hate. 00:07:03.170 --> 00:07:04.160 align:middle line:90% What's revenge? 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.050 align:middle line:84% What can you get by getting to me? 00:07:06.050 --> 00:07:08.450 align:middle line:90% I'm the least of your enemies. 00:07:08.450 --> 00:07:10.370 align:middle line:90% It's time to let it go. 00:07:10.370 --> 00:07:13.140 align:middle line:90% Time to go on with your life. 00:07:13.140 --> 00:07:14.700 align:middle line:90% Chava begins to shudder-- 00:07:14.700 --> 00:07:15.750 align:middle line:90% to utter something. 00:07:15.750 --> 00:07:17.910 align:middle line:84% A guttural sound rising to his throat. 00:07:17.910 --> 00:07:19.590 align:middle line:90% A hideous moan. 00:07:19.590 --> 00:07:22.560 align:middle line:84% I think he's trying to cry, but it's hard to tell. 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:26.660 align:middle line:84% I don't know what to do, So I pull him close to me. 00:07:26.660 --> 00:07:27.980 align:middle line:90% He twists away. 00:07:27.980 --> 00:07:29.810 align:middle line:90% The dudes to the side look lost. 00:07:29.810 --> 00:07:34.280 align:middle line:84% Not knowing their next move-- unprepared for what follows. 00:07:34.280 --> 00:07:37.050 align:middle line:84% I again pull at Chava and hold him. 00:07:37.050 --> 00:07:38.570 align:middle line:90% He breaks down. 00:07:38.570 --> 00:07:43.510 align:middle line:84% A flood of fermented rage seeping out of every pore. 00:07:43.510 --> 00:07:45.340 align:middle line:84% If I thought my life could cleanse you 00:07:45.340 --> 00:07:47.950 align:middle line:84% of the hurt, of the memory, I would open up my shirt 00:07:47.950 --> 00:07:49.700 align:middle line:90% and let you take it from me. 00:07:49.700 --> 00:07:51.340 align:middle line:90% But it won't. 00:07:51.340 --> 00:07:53.290 align:middle line:84% We're too much the same now, Chava. 00:07:53.290 --> 00:07:57.490 align:middle line:90% Let it all out, man, let it out. 00:07:57.490 --> 00:08:00.280 align:middle line:84% I hold Chava as if he were cornmeal in my arms. 00:08:00.280 --> 00:08:02.110 align:middle line:90% Then pity overwhelms me. 00:08:02.110 --> 00:08:04.090 align:middle line:84% This complicated affection, which 00:08:04.090 --> 00:08:07.540 align:middle line:84% cuts across the clear cut states of being we'd rather seek. 00:08:07.540 --> 00:08:08.290 align:middle line:90% Here's friend. 00:08:08.290 --> 00:08:09.100 align:middle line:90% Here's enemy. 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:09.910 align:middle line:90% Here's sadness. 00:08:09.910 --> 00:08:10.780 align:middle line:90% Here's happiness. 00:08:10.780 --> 00:08:11.500 align:middle line:90% Here's right. 00:08:11.500 --> 00:08:13.090 align:middle line:90% Here's wrong. 00:08:13.090 --> 00:08:15.700 align:middle line:84% Pity draws from all these opposing elements, 00:08:15.700 --> 00:08:18.940 align:middle line:84% and courses through me like an uncooked stew. 00:08:18.940 --> 00:08:21.550 align:middle line:84% Mixing and confusing the paradoxes. 00:08:21.550 --> 00:08:22.960 align:middle line:90% Because now, this man-- 00:08:22.960 --> 00:08:27.430 align:middle line:84% I once admired, if not revered, I once feared, if not hated-- 00:08:27.430 --> 00:08:28.630 align:middle line:90% stands here. 00:08:28.630 --> 00:08:30.370 align:middle line:90% A fragment of the race. 00:08:30.370 --> 00:08:31.270 align:middle line:90% Drunk. 00:08:31.270 --> 00:08:31.960 align:middle line:90% Agonized. 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:33.559 align:middle line:90% Crushed. 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.200 align:middle line:90% And I can't hate them anymore. 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:38.659 align:middle line:84% I can't see him as the manifestation of craziness 00:08:38.659 --> 00:08:41.490 align:middle line:90% and power he once possessed. 00:08:41.490 --> 00:08:42.590 align:middle line:90% He's a caricature. 00:08:42.590 --> 00:08:45.320 align:middle line:84% An aberration, but also more like me-- 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.260 align:middle line:84% capable of so much ache beneath the exterior 00:08:48.260 --> 00:08:51.330 align:middle line:90% of so much strength. 00:08:51.330 --> 00:08:55.280 align:middle line:84% And after an internal minute, Chava pushes me away. 00:08:55.280 --> 00:08:59.090 align:middle line:84% Wipes his face with his soiled sleeve and then turns. 00:08:59.090 --> 00:09:02.870 align:middle line:84% The dudes next to us don't seem to know what to do but follow. 00:09:02.870 --> 00:09:05.120 align:middle line:90% I see Chava hobble away. 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.090 align:middle line:84% Two confused teenagers at his side. 00:09:08.090 --> 00:09:10.790 align:middle line:84% And as he vanishes into a flicker of neon, 00:09:10.790 --> 00:09:14.540 align:middle line:84% I hear the final temple of the crazy life leave my body. 00:09:14.540 --> 00:09:16.340 align:middle line:90% The last song before the dying. 00:09:16.340 --> 00:09:18.620 align:middle line:90% Lapsing forever out of mind. 00:09:18.620 --> 00:09:22.010 align:middle line:84% As Chaba disappears, enveloped in flames. 00:09:22.010 --> 00:09:24.470 align:middle line:84% Breaking through the asphalt. Rested 00:09:24.470 --> 00:09:28.577 align:middle line:90% into the black heart of night. 00:09:28.577 --> 00:09:30.922 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:09:30.922 --> 00:09:33.270 align:middle line:90% 00:09:33.270 --> 00:09:35.010 align:middle line:90% Thank you thank you. 00:09:35.010 --> 00:09:39.560 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:09:39.560 --> 00:09:41.000 align:middle line:90%