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That piece is followed
by this photograph

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by Michael David Murphy.

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I wanted the idea of
segregation to begin the book

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because the ways in which
we maintain segregation

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in our lives, whether it's who
we socialize with, where we sit

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in the lunchroom, who we think
we can marry, who we think

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deserves to enter our house
for dinner, all of those ways,

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where we live.

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So it seemed to me that
one of the ways race

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lives in us is in
all of those choices.

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And all of those choices become
a kind of Jim Crow choice.

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And when I saw this photograph
by Michael in his portfolio,

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I said, oh, did
you Photoshop this?

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And he said, no,
you can go there.

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You can go there you can
buy a house on that street.

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And so I said to
him, did you ask them

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why the street is
called Jim Crow?

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And he said, yes, you do.

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And they told him
that the street

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was named after James Crow.

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And so I said to
him, well, did you

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ask them why they didn't
call it James Crow?

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And he said, yes, he did.

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And they said, we call him Jim.

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So therefore, clearly--

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[LAUGHTER]

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But apparently, there
are many Jim Crow roads

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all over the country,
if you look for them.

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This one is in Flowery
Branch, Georgia.

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And it happens to
be in the South,

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but we have a
history of redlining

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residential segregation,
all kinds of things.

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So I think one of the ways
we like to think about racism

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is that it belongs to the South.

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The second time the KKK went
into formation after the Civil

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War was in 1914.

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And it was against immigration
of whites to this country.

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And that moment saw the
KKK rise up in the Midwest

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and in the West.

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So we should give up the myth of
the South being the only place.

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