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So CONDUIT came out around
the time that I was--

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it came up right the summer
before I went to art school.

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And I did this collaboration.

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So I'll play a little bit of it.

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[CYMBALS]

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[DRUMS]

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[CYMBALS]

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[ECHOEY VOICE]

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When she-- when she-- when she--
when she asks what you've seen,

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you say [? shadow ?].

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[CYMBALS]

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The room is full of shadows.

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You've never been to Italy,
but declare undying love,

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[INAUDIBLE].

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[CYMBALS]

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[WHOOSHING]

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[FAINT MUSIC PLAYING]

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It goes on.

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But I was doing it because
I was super bored of poetry.

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Frankly, I just--

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I wanted it to do more than just
be on the page and be pretty.

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It makes you feel
things, obviously.

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But I think I've been
studying it long enough

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that I wanted it to do more.

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I wanted it to be more.

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And going across the
aisle with a musician

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or with another artist
was a way for me

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to expand my own poetics.

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And I think in
terms of spectacle,

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if we're going to,
as poets and writers

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and lovers of literature, expand
that love into the greater

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community, then we might
need a little spectacle.

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We might need to spice
it up a little bit.

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We have to compete with Beyonce.

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So since we can't wear booty
shorts in a parking lot,

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we might have to jazz
it up a little bit.

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So I think it can't do
anything but good to use

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spectacle as a way to bridge
the gap between a closed book

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and having something be alive
in your mind and in your heart,

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in the world, and helping
you evolve as a human being

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because you're reading
something that changes you.

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So I think I'll just read
that one piece from CONDUIT

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instead of just--

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