WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.660 align:middle line:90% 00:00:00.660 --> 00:00:02.430 align:middle line:84% My thinking was that this question 00:00:02.430 --> 00:00:04.380 align:middle line:84% would be a good follow up, that it 00:00:04.380 --> 00:00:05.830 align:middle line:90% would be an obvious connection. 00:00:05.830 --> 00:00:07.780 align:middle line:84% But I'm not-- I'm not sure that it will be. 00:00:07.780 --> 00:00:11.340 align:middle line:84% But given television, and the internet, 00:00:11.340 --> 00:00:18.420 align:middle line:84% and the general inundation of information that we face, 00:00:18.420 --> 00:00:24.660 align:middle line:84% do you ever feel like it's difficult to remain relevant 00:00:24.660 --> 00:00:26.760 align:middle line:90% in all of that information? 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.060 align:middle line:84% Or maybe do you feel that paradoxically, 00:00:30.060 --> 00:00:33.630 align:middle line:84% because of that information, what you publish 00:00:33.630 --> 00:00:34.605 align:middle line:90% is even more relevant? 00:00:34.605 --> 00:00:38.740 align:middle line:90% 00:00:38.740 --> 00:00:41.470 align:middle line:84% Well, this may get back to one of your earlier questions, 00:00:41.470 --> 00:00:46.150 align:middle line:84% but I'll be with Drew here, you know. 00:00:46.150 --> 00:00:47.855 align:middle line:90% What we do is totally awesome. 00:00:47.855 --> 00:00:49.720 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHS] 00:00:49.720 --> 00:00:53.250 align:middle line:84% And I have to believe it is relevant. 00:00:53.250 --> 00:00:56.320 align:middle line:84% That the problem being, whether we 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:58.420 align:middle line:84% can convince enough people and readers 00:00:58.420 --> 00:01:01.310 align:middle line:90% that it is, to keep going. 00:01:01.310 --> 00:01:03.430 align:middle line:84% One thing we haven't touched on here 00:01:03.430 --> 00:01:05.140 align:middle line:84% is probably in your future questions 00:01:05.140 --> 00:01:08.500 align:middle line:84% is the economics of all that, and being 00:01:08.500 --> 00:01:12.310 align:middle line:84% able to continue doing what you do for year after year, 00:01:12.310 --> 00:01:15.670 align:middle line:84% or even and for new prices to begin and all that. 00:01:15.670 --> 00:01:19.750 align:middle line:84% And there are significant challenges of that kind. 00:01:19.750 --> 00:01:27.100 align:middle line:84% And certainly having 1,000 as you said or more 00:01:27.100 --> 00:01:29.590 align:middle line:84% sharing that feeling of its relevance, 00:01:29.590 --> 00:01:32.710 align:middle line:84% even with an individual press and individual author 00:01:32.710 --> 00:01:35.620 align:middle line:84% helps that sense to a great deal. 00:01:35.620 --> 00:01:43.210 align:middle line:84% But I think I have to say I have to trust my training 00:01:43.210 --> 00:01:47.530 align:middle line:84% and trust my sensibility to manuscripts come in 00:01:47.530 --> 00:01:48.640 align:middle line:90% and the work I'm reading. 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:53.530 align:middle line:84% And in certain ways, not worry very much if it's relevant. 00:01:53.530 --> 00:01:56.140 align:middle line:84% And certainly not worry about it being 00:01:56.140 --> 00:01:58.810 align:middle line:84% relevant to specific issues of our time 00:01:58.810 --> 00:02:00.340 align:middle line:84% and things like that because I do 00:02:00.340 --> 00:02:03.970 align:middle line:84% think that the work we publish, I 00:02:03.970 --> 00:02:09.080 align:middle line:84% want it to have a long, very long shelf life. 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.380 align:middle line:84% On the other hand, you know, it's 00:02:11.380 --> 00:02:14.650 align:middle line:84% sort of wonderful when it does have timely relevance too. 00:02:14.650 --> 00:02:18.540 align:middle line:90% 00:02:18.540 --> 00:02:20.950 align:middle line:84% I don't know if arrogance is the right word, 00:02:20.950 --> 00:02:23.220 align:middle line:84% but I look at the people I hang out 00:02:23.220 --> 00:02:24.900 align:middle line:84% with when we're making the bucks, 00:02:24.900 --> 00:02:29.040 align:middle line:84% and I think they're a hell of a lot cooler than most anybody 00:02:29.040 --> 00:02:30.990 align:middle line:90% I meet, like Drew and Richard. 00:02:30.990 --> 00:02:34.080 align:middle line:84% And Andrew out there does all our design, and our intern. 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:37.500 align:middle line:84% And they're great, awesome people, 00:02:37.500 --> 00:02:40.950 align:middle line:84% and they consider what we're doing relevant. 00:02:40.950 --> 00:02:46.190 align:middle line:84% And they like me so thus, I must be also awesome and relevant. 00:02:46.190 --> 00:02:46.690 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:02:46.690 --> 00:02:55.110 align:middle line:84% So whether or not others are considering our work relevant, 00:02:55.110 --> 00:02:57.945 align:middle line:84% it's not actually that relevant question. 00:02:57.945 --> 00:03:00.695 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:03:00.695 --> 00:03:04.980 align:middle line:90% So yeah. 00:03:04.980 --> 00:03:07.710 align:middle line:84% Just to echo that, even historically, 00:03:07.710 --> 00:03:13.320 align:middle line:84% the sense that small groups and coterie of poets and readers 00:03:13.320 --> 00:03:15.780 align:middle line:84% that maybe didn't have many people at all listening 00:03:15.780 --> 00:03:17.850 align:middle line:84% to them in their time have been some 00:03:17.850 --> 00:03:20.550 align:middle line:84% of the people that have made this whole history of the work 00:03:20.550 --> 00:03:21.400 align:middle line:90% we do. 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.980 align:middle line:84% So yeah, I think you are relevant. 00:03:24.980 --> 00:03:26.190 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:03:26.190 --> 00:03:32.310 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:03:32.310 --> 00:03:35.180 align:middle line:84% So much of awesomeness equals relevance. 00:03:35.180 --> 00:03:37.410 align:middle line:90% Well we're all on the same team. 00:03:37.410 --> 00:03:43.710 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:03:43.710 --> 00:03:46.800 align:middle line:84% And I wouldn't look to the economy. 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.300 align:middle line:84% Yeah, it's really important to believe in what you do. 00:03:49.300 --> 00:03:51.990 align:middle line:84% Otherwise, we wouldn't be here doing it right or still doing 00:03:51.990 --> 00:03:55.740 align:middle line:84% it after 25 years, I think Chax Press? 00:03:55.740 --> 00:03:56.460 align:middle line:90% 27. 00:03:56.460 --> 00:03:57.540 align:middle line:90% 27. 00:03:57.540 --> 00:04:01.020 align:middle line:84% 18 years Kore, and you'll be doing it the rest of your life 00:04:01.020 --> 00:04:01.800 align:middle line:90% too. 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.910 align:middle line:84% So and I suppose we all are operating 00:04:05.910 --> 00:04:09.810 align:middle line:84% in an economy and that's sustainability 00:04:09.810 --> 00:04:14.710 align:middle line:84% and sort of long historic view is really important I think, 00:04:14.710 --> 00:04:16.477 align:middle line:90% for all of us. 00:04:16.477 --> 00:04:18.810 align:middle line:84% And having a good time doing that it's really important, 00:04:18.810 --> 00:04:23.280 align:middle line:84% and yet we also exist and have to operate in this economy, 00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:26.507 align:middle line:84% but we can't look to the economy to say, yes, you're relevant. 00:04:26.507 --> 00:04:27.840 align:middle line:90% You know, I mean, we make books. 00:04:27.840 --> 00:04:28.980 align:middle line:90% We have to sell the books. 00:04:28.980 --> 00:04:31.020 align:middle line:84% So therefore, we want to cultivate 00:04:31.020 --> 00:04:34.350 align:middle line:84% a readership that keeps us going, 00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:37.360 align:middle line:90% and we keep them going as well. 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:38.970 align:middle line:84% And then the other part of the economy 00:04:38.970 --> 00:04:45.870 align:middle line:84% is just well, we can't rely on the government, or arts 00:04:45.870 --> 00:04:49.470 align:middle line:84% councils, or where the money is coming 00:04:49.470 --> 00:04:52.238 align:middle line:84% from to tell us that we're good, or we're relevant, 00:04:52.238 --> 00:04:54.030 align:middle line:84% or important, or the work that we're doing. 00:04:54.030 --> 00:04:58.580 align:middle line:84% We have to just keep finding new ways to keep making it happen. 00:04:58.580 --> 00:05:00.011 align:middle line:90%