WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.610 align:middle line:84% So what I thought we would do is start 00:00:02.610 --> 00:00:04.380 align:middle line:84% with instead of the usual introductions, 00:00:04.380 --> 00:00:08.500 align:middle line:84% I asked our presenters some questions about their bodies. 00:00:08.500 --> 00:00:11.130 align:middle line:84% And so that's how I'm going to introduce them. 00:00:11.130 --> 00:00:13.170 align:middle line:90% This is Don. 00:00:13.170 --> 00:00:17.160 align:middle line:84% This is what she likes to eat for lunch, iced tea. 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:21.720 align:middle line:84% Her legs are warped, the condition of her heart 00:00:21.720 --> 00:00:26.160 align:middle line:90% is expandable and malleable. 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:29.270 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:00:29.270 --> 00:00:30.700 align:middle line:90% Looked like putty. 00:00:30.700 --> 00:00:35.580 align:middle line:84% Duriel likes to eat for lunch something raw foods, arugula 00:00:35.580 --> 00:00:37.560 align:middle line:90% salad preferably. 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:41.640 align:middle line:84% Her legs are muscular and friendly. 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:46.410 align:middle line:84% This word is part of her gratitude is less possibility. 00:00:46.410 --> 00:00:48.480 align:middle line:84% I love how writers can't just choose one word. 00:00:48.480 --> 00:00:52.590 align:middle line:90% 00:00:52.590 --> 00:00:53.850 align:middle line:90% We got Doug Kearney. 00:00:53.850 --> 00:00:57.510 align:middle line:84% He's going to present next in the lineup today. 00:00:57.510 --> 00:01:01.710 align:middle line:84% What he likes for lunch, things wrapped in tortillas or pittas. 00:01:01.710 --> 00:01:04.569 align:middle line:84% If it's pittas, he wants fries on the side. 00:01:04.569 --> 00:01:06.570 align:middle line:90% Totally with you. 00:01:06.570 --> 00:01:09.150 align:middle line:84% When you must energized, this was the question. 00:01:09.150 --> 00:01:10.950 align:middle line:84% He says this will sound sad but when 00:01:10.950 --> 00:01:14.290 align:middle line:84% I'm in front of people, that's not sad to me. 00:01:14.290 --> 00:01:16.080 align:middle line:90% It's a very LA thing. 00:01:16.080 --> 00:01:22.750 align:middle line:84% I'm only alive now in front of you all. 00:01:22.750 --> 00:01:26.650 align:middle line:84% And he is a werewolf and a family man. 00:01:26.650 --> 00:01:29.131 align:middle line:84% Once again, cannot choose one word. 00:01:29.131 --> 00:01:31.780 align:middle line:90% 00:01:31.780 --> 00:01:34.090 align:middle line:90% KJ over here. 00:01:34.090 --> 00:01:36.250 align:middle line:90% Likes khichdi for lunch. 00:01:36.250 --> 00:01:36.840 align:middle line:90% Khichdi 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.110 align:middle line:90% Khichdi. 00:01:38.110 --> 00:01:38.815 align:middle line:90% What's khichdi? 00:01:38.815 --> 00:01:40.480 align:middle line:90% It's an East Indian stew. 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:44.080 align:middle line:84% East Indian stew, I think I like that too. 00:01:44.080 --> 00:01:45.850 align:middle line:84% What is the condition of your heart? 00:01:45.850 --> 00:01:51.060 align:middle line:84% Her heart is a surprising fathomless nocturne. 00:01:51.060 --> 00:01:52.840 align:middle line:90% Hmm-mm. 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.090 align:middle line:90% Took four words. 00:01:55.090 --> 00:01:58.660 align:middle line:84% He said her legs are her best weapon. 00:01:58.660 --> 00:02:03.130 align:middle line:90% So true as we saw last night. 00:02:03.130 --> 00:02:06.160 align:middle line:84% Julie Carr, for lunch, not much, she's 00:02:06.160 --> 00:02:09.669 align:middle line:90% on the dawn iced tea train. 00:02:09.669 --> 00:02:12.040 align:middle line:84% When are her feet most comfortable? 00:02:12.040 --> 00:02:13.810 align:middle line:90% When touched. 00:02:13.810 --> 00:02:16.930 align:middle line:84% And what word might be plastered on her chest? 00:02:16.930 --> 00:02:18.100 align:middle line:90% Mother. 00:02:18.100 --> 00:02:19.720 align:middle line:90% Mother. 00:02:19.720 --> 00:02:21.550 align:middle line:90% Beautiful. 00:02:21.550 --> 00:02:24.940 align:middle line:90% Ronaldo, let's see. 00:02:24.940 --> 00:02:33.040 align:middle line:84% He eats nothing for lunch but I usually want carbs, streams, 00:02:33.040 --> 00:02:37.730 align:middle line:90% and protein, so matter of fact. 00:02:37.730 --> 00:02:40.550 align:middle line:90% 00:02:40.550 --> 00:02:45.590 align:middle line:84% His legs are long and pointed as we also saw last night. 00:02:45.590 --> 00:02:50.210 align:middle line:84% And the condition of his heart is responsive. 00:02:50.210 --> 00:02:50.960 align:middle line:90% Beautiful. 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.290 align:middle line:84% So last but not least, Julie Patton. 00:02:54.290 --> 00:02:58.490 align:middle line:84% Likes for lunch, anything she can wild craft. 00:02:58.490 --> 00:03:01.790 align:middle line:84% The condition of her heart is imploded 00:03:01.790 --> 00:03:04.390 align:middle line:84% and her feet are most comfortable in water hill. 00:03:04.390 --> 00:03:06.470 align:middle line:90% Yes, me too. 00:03:06.470 --> 00:03:07.310 align:middle line:90% Beautiful. 00:03:07.310 --> 00:03:12.620 align:middle line:84% So what I did was I sent them some questions 00:03:12.620 --> 00:03:15.560 align:middle line:84% which not everybody got but I sent them a lot of questions. 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.780 align:middle line:84% But probably only going to have time for five, 00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:19.190 align:middle line:90% I mean, three of them. 00:03:19.190 --> 00:03:21.860 align:middle line:84% And then I'd invited them to use their bodies 00:03:21.860 --> 00:03:25.430 align:middle line:84% or use language or respond in any way 00:03:25.430 --> 00:03:27.480 align:middle line:90% that they feel most appropriate. 00:03:27.480 --> 00:03:30.200 align:middle line:84% I also have written the questions 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:36.350 align:middle line:84% on my arm just in case they forgets or later you 00:03:36.350 --> 00:03:39.770 align:middle line:84% want a question, feel free to describe my arm 00:03:39.770 --> 00:03:41.390 align:middle line:90% and we'll do it. 00:03:41.390 --> 00:03:45.920 align:middle line:84% Also, I just wanted to say when Annie first told me 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:47.870 align:middle line:84% about this panel, I instantly thought 00:03:47.870 --> 00:03:50.420 align:middle line:84% and I was wondering what you might think about this too. 00:03:50.420 --> 00:03:54.680 align:middle line:84% When I don't have paper and pen, how does that ever happen? 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.870 align:middle line:84% But sometimes it happens, I always 00:03:56.870 --> 00:04:01.010 align:middle line:84% use my hand on my leg to write it out and remember it 00:04:01.010 --> 00:04:02.040 align:middle line:90% that way. 00:04:02.040 --> 00:04:03.980 align:middle line:84% And my friend, Christy Maxwell, she 00:04:03.980 --> 00:04:06.470 align:middle line:84% actually uses the muscles of her legs. 00:04:06.470 --> 00:04:09.410 align:middle line:84% She tweaks them in like a pattern. 00:04:09.410 --> 00:04:11.492 align:middle line:90% That is fascinating to me. 00:04:11.492 --> 00:04:13.700 align:middle line:84% But I just thought that might be an interesting thing 00:04:13.700 --> 00:04:16.579 align:middle line:84% to think about what you do when you don't have paper and pen. 00:04:16.579 --> 00:04:18.680 align:middle line:84% So here's our first question, and whoever 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:26.570 align:middle line:84% wants to get up and speak first, just give me the icy. 00:04:26.570 --> 00:04:30.890 align:middle line:84% So where in the body does your writing begin its habitation? 00:04:30.890 --> 00:04:45.420 align:middle line:90% 00:04:45.420 --> 00:04:46.870 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] just show us. 00:04:46.870 --> 00:04:47.370 align:middle line:90% No. 00:04:47.370 --> 00:04:48.180 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 00:04:48.180 --> 00:04:52.560 align:middle line:90% 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:54.180 align:middle line:90% I can't show you. 00:04:54.180 --> 00:04:58.270 align:middle line:84% I actually feel slightly alienated from my body 00:04:58.270 --> 00:05:03.790 align:middle line:84% and I feel as if I'm always trying to re-access it. 00:05:03.790 --> 00:05:09.720 align:middle line:84% So there seems to be, if I were to prepare it for writing, 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:15.240 align:middle line:84% I would go for a really long run or lift 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.810 align:middle line:84% some weights or something in order to really feel it. 00:05:19.810 --> 00:05:23.610 align:middle line:84% So I feel as if I'm constantly struggling 00:05:23.610 --> 00:05:30.060 align:middle line:84% to connect the writing to the body in some way. 00:05:30.060 --> 00:05:33.360 align:middle line:84% There's for me a disconnect and I'm always 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:39.840 align:middle line:84% trying to re-enter that space or that physical matter. 00:05:39.840 --> 00:05:45.380 align:middle line:90% 00:05:45.380 --> 00:05:46.310 align:middle line:90% Kind of similar. 00:05:46.310 --> 00:05:49.490 align:middle line:84% I don't feel the alienated but I feel like I actually 00:05:49.490 --> 00:05:57.770 align:middle line:84% made a conscious separation because having been a dancer, 00:05:57.770 --> 00:06:02.660 align:middle line:84% everything started with, ended with, was grounded in the body, 00:06:02.660 --> 00:06:08.340 align:middle line:84% and there was a kind of way that for me that became oppressive. 00:06:08.340 --> 00:06:13.770 align:middle line:84% And so when I finally didn't identify as a dancer anymore, 00:06:13.770 --> 00:06:17.810 align:middle line:84% it was a huge relief to not think where in my body 00:06:17.810 --> 00:06:20.720 align:middle line:84% or what is my body or how is my body or is my body 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:26.030 align:middle line:84% OK then things like that in the process of making something. 00:06:26.030 --> 00:06:29.030 align:middle line:84% But as I was thinking to try to answer the question, 00:06:29.030 --> 00:06:31.520 align:middle line:90% I thought my jaw. 00:06:31.520 --> 00:06:35.660 align:middle line:84% That there's a kind of will in the jaw that 00:06:35.660 --> 00:06:37.400 align:middle line:90% has to do with desire. 00:06:37.400 --> 00:06:39.110 align:middle line:84% At least that's how I experience, 00:06:39.110 --> 00:06:44.000 align:middle line:84% it has to do with desire, like a kind of urge energy 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.290 align:middle line:84% to move forward into writing and it's like huh. 00:06:48.290 --> 00:06:51.500 align:middle line:84% And so that seems like it's here and maybe 00:06:51.500 --> 00:06:53.480 align:middle line:84% that has to do with speech and like the desire 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:55.730 align:middle line:90% to say something. 00:06:55.730 --> 00:07:00.290 align:middle line:84% But I was very glad to not have everything grounded early 00:07:00.290 --> 00:07:02.195 align:middle line:84% on the pelvis, which is where it is and dance 00:07:02.195 --> 00:07:04.580 align:middle line:84% and to actually not have to be there. 00:07:04.580 --> 00:07:08.180 align:middle line:90% 00:07:08.180 --> 00:07:11.570 align:middle line:84% For me, it's oftentimes the ear because I'm triggering off 00:07:11.570 --> 00:07:14.430 align:middle line:84% of things I've heard usually more often things that I've 00:07:14.430 --> 00:07:14.930 align:middle line:90% seen. 00:07:14.930 --> 00:07:17.090 align:middle line:84% I mean, the thing I've seen might make 00:07:17.090 --> 00:07:19.070 align:middle line:90% me think about writing a poem. 00:07:19.070 --> 00:07:20.930 align:middle line:84% But it's not until a bit of language 00:07:20.930 --> 00:07:27.710 align:middle line:84% warms its way into my ear in a really sonic way that 00:07:27.710 --> 00:07:31.430 align:middle line:84% really drives me to sit down and try to make something. 00:07:31.430 --> 00:07:35.660 align:middle line:84% Just to be able to hear certain words 00:07:35.660 --> 00:07:38.900 align:middle line:84% clatter together or certain phrases 00:07:38.900 --> 00:07:42.660 align:middle line:84% from different reference points clatter together. 00:07:42.660 --> 00:07:48.090 align:middle line:84% So for me I think it's largely the ear which is hard to type 00:07:48.090 --> 00:07:48.590 align:middle line:90% with. 00:07:48.590 --> 00:07:52.280 align:middle line:90% 00:07:52.280 --> 00:07:55.220 align:middle line:84% I have to disagree with Julie Carr about dance music 00:07:55.220 --> 00:07:57.110 align:middle line:84% being naked only in the belly or the pelvis 00:07:57.110 --> 00:08:02.300 align:middle line:84% because I think dance comes from all parts of the body 00:08:02.300 --> 00:08:06.380 align:middle line:84% and as a dancer and also a poet, I 00:08:06.380 --> 00:08:12.290 align:middle line:84% feel like where I have a tape my writing, is in the space. 00:08:12.290 --> 00:08:15.740 align:middle line:84% And the space sometimes is inside my spine 00:08:15.740 --> 00:08:18.680 align:middle line:84% and I think about the spine as the connection between my head 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:23.150 align:middle line:84% and body because there is no separation if I look 00:08:23.150 --> 00:08:25.640 align:middle line:90% at that center line of my body. 00:08:25.640 --> 00:08:28.520 align:middle line:84% And that as a fluid quality of my body, 00:08:28.520 --> 00:08:34.700 align:middle line:84% the spine is where I can access the idea of reflexive knowledge 00:08:34.700 --> 00:08:38.870 align:middle line:84% to bringing an idea from my experience that's 00:08:38.870 --> 00:08:41.265 align:middle line:84% held a little bit more contained in my brain. 00:08:41.265 --> 00:08:42.890 align:middle line:84% But there's always that connection back 00:08:42.890 --> 00:08:46.680 align:middle line:84% to the sensation of, what am I doing with my body? 00:08:46.680 --> 00:08:50.510 align:middle line:84% I'm breathing, the physiology of my body. 00:08:50.510 --> 00:08:54.260 align:middle line:84% And in that, there's the poetics as well as 00:08:54.260 --> 00:08:57.600 align:middle line:90% the movement of the body. 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.200 align:middle line:90% So that's what I would say. 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:04.010 align:middle line:90% 00:09:04.010 --> 00:09:09.470 align:middle line:84% That's a challenging question to answer in a straight form 00:09:09.470 --> 00:09:12.785 align:middle line:84% because I think it depends on what I'm doing. 00:09:12.785 --> 00:09:15.380 align:middle line:90% 00:09:15.380 --> 00:09:19.850 align:middle line:84% I'll say it's my whole body, but also it's outside of me 00:09:19.850 --> 00:09:25.610 align:middle line:84% coming in through everything at the top of my head. 00:09:25.610 --> 00:09:27.770 align:middle line:84% My feet in contact with the Earth 00:09:27.770 --> 00:09:33.020 align:middle line:84% is a very important channel for me. 00:09:33.020 --> 00:09:35.750 align:middle line:90% I feel as much in my feet. 00:09:35.750 --> 00:09:38.360 align:middle line:84% I don't make a distinction between hands and feet 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:46.310 align:middle line:84% really because I think one transfers to the other. 00:09:46.310 --> 00:09:52.680 align:middle line:84% And walking is, for me, is my religion in a sense. 00:09:52.680 --> 00:09:57.470 align:middle line:84% And so being in contact, moving and that sense of line 00:09:57.470 --> 00:10:02.480 align:middle line:84% and with also feeling, like it's not about the Earth being flat 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:06.020 align:middle line:84% but picking up deeper roots and the same thing 00:10:06.020 --> 00:10:08.690 align:middle line:90% goes on this way. 00:10:08.690 --> 00:10:12.920 align:middle line:84% But I have an obsessive amount of energy 00:10:12.920 --> 00:10:16.490 align:middle line:84% in my hands as a result because it constantly 00:10:16.490 --> 00:10:19.550 align:middle line:84% coming in contact with matter and material 00:10:19.550 --> 00:10:26.720 align:middle line:84% to make the pliability of the word and plasticity of things 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.720 align:middle line:90% and grounding energy. 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:35.610 align:middle line:84% In order to do what I do, meditation, 00:10:35.610 --> 00:10:38.510 align:middle line:84% which can be walking meditation or any kind of meditation 00:10:38.510 --> 00:10:40.880 align:middle line:84% has been key for me since I was 11 00:10:40.880 --> 00:10:44.840 align:middle line:84% because I don't want so much to express myself with something 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:50.480 align:middle line:84% that's larger or beyond me than includes me so that it brings 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:55.250 align:middle line:90% in other forms of information. 00:10:55.250 --> 00:11:01.760 align:middle line:84% But in many ways I'm a sculptor and if people 00:11:01.760 --> 00:11:03.890 align:middle line:84% come in my dwelling spaces and they 00:11:03.890 --> 00:11:07.520 align:middle line:84% are like, why isn't that in an art exhibit or this and that? 00:11:07.520 --> 00:11:11.540 align:middle line:84% Because I make sculpture all the time coming across small things 00:11:11.540 --> 00:11:13.610 align:middle line:84% and it's almost like my hands are leading me. 00:11:13.610 --> 00:11:18.920 align:middle line:84% They just have to feel and then the language 00:11:18.920 --> 00:11:22.670 align:middle line:90% comes in relation to that. 00:11:22.670 --> 00:11:27.060 align:middle line:84% But in the old days, I used to put on the ground 00:11:27.060 --> 00:11:31.240 align:middle line:84% large sheets of paper and get in them and then throw ink. 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:34.290 align:middle line:90% And so I don't decide anything. 00:11:34.290 --> 00:11:41.900 align:middle line:84% And it's just getting still enough to listen and respond. 00:11:41.900 --> 00:11:44.120 align:middle line:84% I don't know if I made any sense. 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.440 align:middle line:90% You were all about flow. 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.290 align:middle line:90% I am. 00:11:48.290 --> 00:11:49.000 align:middle line:90%