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This question is
for I guess Cecilia.

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But also, I'm interested in how
it connects with the Trayvon

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Martin videos that we saw.

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I was wondering
if we could think

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about how the medium
and what effect that

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might have on how you're
treating the subject, like you

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said that pulling things
that have already happened,

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pulling that forward, bringing
that back and making it

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sort of present
and contemporary.

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And at the same
time, you know, I

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was wondering how does that
work with making a film versus,

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Cecilia, your piece
is improvisation,

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you know, You're
working from a script

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but at the same
time you're talking,

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you're commenting
on the audience,

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you're interacting with us.

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So, I was wondering
about the differences

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between film and
improvisation and that idea.

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But both of you seem to be
really interested in making

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history present and
palpable, something

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that can be manipulated.

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OK.

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Yeah, I will not
speak about film

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even though I also
do film because I

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would like for Claudia to
take care of that part.

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But about the improvisation,
isn't it a beautiful word.

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Visation is visualize and im
is the improbable, you know.

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So, it's like seeing
the improbable.

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And where is it?

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It's nowhere to be
seen until it happens.

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So, it's actually happening
for you to be a part of.

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So, it's like where is
our act taking place.

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Is it in the past?

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In the present?

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Or the future?

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Just before coming here, I
was watching this really bad

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discovery scientific film.

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And there was a
discovery that has

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been made in quantum physics
that confirms a discovery that

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has been made first
in neuroscience, which

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is that all living organisms,
starting from unicellular

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beings, have this anticipatory
capacity because information

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is coming from the future.

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And so, improvisation
is really coming

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from the future for what
can be if you let it be.

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So where is it, you know?

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And that is the
feeling I seek when

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I come into a room, where
there is this precious presence

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of everybody, you know.

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This togetherness.

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And I arrived here, there was
a little homage to Stacy Doris.

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So, I included some of the lines
by Stacy, I hope you noticed.

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And she has this
profound meditation

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on the "I" that is a problem.

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And on the we's, she says.

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And I thought, so beautiful.

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And so I wanted
to bring that in.

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The medium film is by
nature collaborative.

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And because it's
collaborative, it

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means that you are always
improvising with the people

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that you're working with.

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There's no sort of
straight arrow in terms

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of intention and execution.

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So in, for instance,
in this film,

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I was really interested in using
President Obama's statement

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that this could
be a son of mine.

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And also the actual target.

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And my husband said, no.

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He was not interested in
replicating that moment.

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And I said, well, I
bet you a lot of people

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haven't seen that moment.

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And he said, I don't care.

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I don't want to
replicate that moment.

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And I said, well, maybe you
could just put it in and see.

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[LAUGHTER]

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If it's not working.

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But he is in control
of what goes in

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because he does the technical
stuff so it never got in.

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[LAUGHTER]

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So the men that are in,
those are all actually

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students, Pomona students,
of Pitzer students.

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And it was interesting
when we were at the sneaker

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store, which had a lot
of hoodies in that store,

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we had asked these guys
if they would show up.

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And they were supposed
to show up at 7 o'clock

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because the guy who owned
the store said we could

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film in the store at 7 o'clock.

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And at 7:05 I thought,
what if none of them come?

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And then we began to see
them on the street coming

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from different directions.

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And then once they
got in the store

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we didn't tell them
to do anything.

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We just said,
here's some hoodies.

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Here's some sneakers.

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Here's a store.

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Go in there.

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And we're going to film it.

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And so, you know, two of
them are friends and two more

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were friends and one
of them knew some--

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and it was just interesting to
see how they would interact.

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So, I think partly you say
we need you to go in there

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and try on some hoodies.

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But then that's it.

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Then they do what they want.

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Yeah, so the medium
is full of chance.

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And such.

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