WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.020 align:middle line:90% 00:00:02.020 --> 00:00:04.360 align:middle line:84% I was just wondering, Claudia you 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:06.790 align:middle line:84% mentioned that Christine and you were 00:00:06.790 --> 00:00:11.230 align:middle line:84% collaborating on how to handle the Trayvon Martin material. 00:00:11.230 --> 00:00:14.560 align:middle line:84% And I was wondering where the collaboration came in. 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:16.390 align:middle line:84% Was it by talking about what you were 00:00:16.390 --> 00:00:19.210 align:middle line:84% going to do tonight or some future work? 00:00:19.210 --> 00:00:22.690 align:middle line:90% 00:00:22.690 --> 00:00:25.150 align:middle line:90% Yes, it was. 00:00:25.150 --> 00:00:31.420 align:middle line:84% We started talking about it a long time ago, 00:00:31.420 --> 00:00:34.500 align:middle line:84% but there were a lot of ideas that were 00:00:34.500 --> 00:00:39.900 align:middle line:90% brewing in our conversations. 00:00:39.900 --> 00:00:45.760 align:middle line:84% And then we just kind of accidentally 00:00:45.760 --> 00:00:48.370 align:middle line:84% stumbled into this common territory 00:00:48.370 --> 00:00:50.380 align:middle line:90% and decided to work with it. 00:00:50.380 --> 00:00:55.840 align:middle line:84% And I hadn't seen her piece until today. 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.260 align:middle line:90% 00:00:59.260 --> 00:01:00.710 align:middle line:90% But we were talking about it. 00:01:00.710 --> 00:01:05.440 align:middle line:84% So, there was a lot of exchange and a lot of trying to--. 00:01:05.440 --> 00:01:08.380 align:middle line:84% I felt like my role was to provide 00:01:08.380 --> 00:01:11.560 align:middle line:90% a runway for Claudia's piece. 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:16.120 align:middle line:84% And to give it some kind of, like just 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:20.170 align:middle line:84% to prepare the audience in some way for it. 00:01:20.170 --> 00:01:22.180 align:middle line:84% I don't think that's true because she hadn't 00:01:22.180 --> 00:01:23.480 align:middle line:90% seen the piece until today. 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.540 align:middle line:90% So, the runway is not actually. 00:01:25.540 --> 00:01:28.720 align:middle line:90% But I think that you were-- 00:01:28.720 --> 00:01:33.250 align:middle line:84% but I think that Christine was interested in the pieces 00:01:33.250 --> 00:01:36.880 align:middle line:84% that she pulled forward had to do with Trayvon 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:45.110 align:middle line:84% Martin in that the world of the kind of political repression 00:01:45.110 --> 00:01:48.170 align:middle line:84% got addressed in all of the sound pieces 00:01:48.170 --> 00:01:50.270 align:middle line:90% that she brought forward. 00:01:50.270 --> 00:01:54.200 align:middle line:84% And so in that way, I think we were thinking about what it 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:58.340 align:middle line:90% meant to be in Trayvon's body. 00:01:58.340 --> 00:02:00.800 align:middle line:84% And so, you know, I think even though we weren't 00:02:00.800 --> 00:02:03.950 align:middle line:84% looking at each other's pieces and remembering them, 00:02:03.950 --> 00:02:07.130 align:middle line:84% when I finally sent the text to Christine 00:02:07.130 --> 00:02:09.850 align:middle line:84% and then she sent me her text that she 00:02:09.850 --> 00:02:12.650 align:middle line:84% began to fold in these moments that I 00:02:12.650 --> 00:02:17.930 align:middle line:84% had culled from these black poets who I had spoken to. 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:22.130 align:middle line:84% And so that kind of became part of her, 00:02:22.130 --> 00:02:26.660 align:middle line:84% in part in the way a sort of organic pulling together 00:02:26.660 --> 00:02:31.290 align:middle line:84% the material that you did in the time that you've been here, 00:02:31.290 --> 00:02:33.758 align:middle line:84% which is what I heard in your piece. 00:02:33.758 --> 00:02:36.590 align:middle line:90% 00:02:36.590 --> 00:02:37.090 align:middle line:90% Thanks. 00:02:37.090 --> 00:02:41.710 align:middle line:84% The pulling together, that's a beautiful thing. 00:02:41.710 --> 00:02:44.950 align:middle line:84% In the Mapuche people of the South of Chile, 00:02:44.950 --> 00:02:48.310 align:middle line:84% the indigenous people of the South of Chile. 00:02:48.310 --> 00:02:54.130 align:middle line:84% And the kind of song that a woman that sings from hurt 00:02:54.130 --> 00:02:57.490 align:middle line:90% is doing is called pulling. 00:02:57.490 --> 00:03:01.840 align:middle line:84% And because when you sing in that form 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:06.190 align:middle line:84% and you do things that nobody cares for, you see, 00:03:06.190 --> 00:03:11.170 align:middle line:84% I come here in veneration, in adoration of this desert that 00:03:11.170 --> 00:03:13.000 align:middle line:90% is being destroyed. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.870 align:middle line:84% I come here in veneration for the Yaqui culture, 00:03:16.870 --> 00:03:19.390 align:middle line:84% for the ancient cultures of this place. 00:03:19.390 --> 00:03:25.780 align:middle line:84% And it's poof, going, going, going, you know. 00:03:25.780 --> 00:03:28.940 align:middle line:84% And so, how can I respond to that? 00:03:28.940 --> 00:03:35.654 align:middle line:84% Add it by crying, crying in a tone nobody cares for. 00:03:35.654 --> 00:03:37.100 align:middle line:90% Pulling tone. 00:03:37.100 --> 00:03:40.850 align:middle line:84% Now do [INAUDIBLE] you think that when you pull things that 00:03:40.850 --> 00:03:45.020 align:middle line:84% are worthless, that are nothing from nothing to nothing, 00:03:45.020 --> 00:03:49.100 align:middle line:84% the ancestors come and all the forces come. 00:03:49.100 --> 00:03:52.160 align:middle line:84% So this pulling together that you are doing, 00:03:52.160 --> 00:03:54.270 align:middle line:90% it greatly freezes my blood. 00:03:54.270 --> 00:03:55.670 align:middle line:90% It freezes it. 00:03:55.670 --> 00:03:57.560 align:middle line:90% Because it changes it. 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:02.690 align:middle line:84% When you ask for us to close our eyes, I really did. 00:04:02.690 --> 00:04:08.660 align:middle line:84% And I was feeling the rhythm of my blood change 00:04:08.660 --> 00:04:14.060 align:middle line:84% by just the idea of going into an alleyway where you are 00:04:14.060 --> 00:04:16.399 align:middle line:90% the dangerous one, you know. 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:20.510 align:middle line:84% When I remember, a Latin American friend 00:04:20.510 --> 00:04:23.330 align:middle line:84% who was coming to New York, and he 00:04:23.330 --> 00:04:25.580 align:middle line:84% had been told New York is very dangerous, 00:04:25.580 --> 00:04:28.100 align:middle line:90% don't go into the subway. 00:04:28.100 --> 00:04:30.800 align:middle line:90% So, the poor man was terrified. 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.430 align:middle line:84% And finally, he decided to go into the subway. 00:04:34.430 --> 00:04:38.670 align:middle line:84% He enters into a car, not [INAUDIBLE] covered car. 00:04:38.670 --> 00:04:41.960 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] the car. 00:04:41.960 --> 00:04:44.900 align:middle line:84% He sits, and people immediately leave. 00:04:44.900 --> 00:04:48.980 align:middle line:84% Of course he hadn't noticed that he was black. 00:04:48.980 --> 00:04:53.186 align:middle line:84% So, it's who is scared of who, you know? 00:04:53.186 --> 00:04:57.260 align:middle line:84% So, this pulling together is probably the one thing 00:04:57.260 --> 00:04:59.410 align:middle line:90% that we can do.