WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.180 align:middle line:84% Sometimes, poems that are really love poems are in a way 00:00:06.180 --> 00:00:07.800 align:middle line:90% hate poems. 00:00:07.800 --> 00:00:12.540 align:middle line:84% And the poet who did this most memorably is, I suppose, 00:00:12.540 --> 00:00:13.040 align:middle line:90% Catullus. 00:00:13.040 --> 00:00:15.690 align:middle line:90% 00:00:15.690 --> 00:00:18.180 align:middle line:90% "Odi et amo," I love and I hate. 00:00:18.180 --> 00:00:20.190 align:middle line:90% If you ask me why, I don't know. 00:00:20.190 --> 00:00:24.330 align:middle line:84% But I feel it and I'm tormented, said Catullus. 00:00:24.330 --> 00:00:27.060 align:middle line:84% And you can probably think of a lot of love poems 00:00:27.060 --> 00:00:29.085 align:middle line:84% that are also hate poems in a way. 00:00:29.085 --> 00:00:34.140 align:middle line:90% 00:00:34.140 --> 00:00:37.440 align:middle line:84% Here are a couple of rather free translations from Catullus. 00:00:37.440 --> 00:00:39.137 align:middle line:84% You know the Catullus poem that goes 00:00:39.137 --> 00:00:41.976 align:middle line:84% Nulli se dicit mulier mea nubere malle / quam mihi, non si se 00:00:41.976 --> 00:00:44.351 align:middle line:84% Iuppiter ipse petat / dicit: sed mulier cupido quod 00:00:44.351 --> 00:00:59.310 align:middle line:90% dicit amanti, / in vento et rapida scribere oportet aqua. 00:00:59.310 --> 00:01:01.800 align:middle line:84% Which you might translate, my girl 00:01:01.800 --> 00:01:05.040 align:middle line:84% says she'd take no one else as a lover. 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.800 align:middle line:90% No one else, she says. 00:01:07.800 --> 00:01:12.330 align:middle line:84% Even if Jupiter were to coax, says. 00:01:12.330 --> 00:01:15.690 align:middle line:84% But what a girl says to her vehement lover, 00:01:15.690 --> 00:01:17.820 align:middle line:90% write on the giddy wind. 00:01:17.820 --> 00:01:21.720 align:middle line:90% Write on the stream as it flows. 00:01:21.720 --> 00:01:26.300 align:middle line:84% This is one of his love-hate poems.